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Extreme change in behaviour overnight

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Pansy0926 · 27/07/2018 01:40

I have two sons, aged 3 years and the second is 2 months old. For the last two days DS1 has had absolutely awful behaviour and it has come out of nowhere. For two days straight he has showcased his absolute worst, whereas we might have in the last have had maybe one tantrum lasting no more than half an hour every few months.

I have been kicked, hit, scratched, spat on. He defiantly pees on the floor and today he did that, walked though and in the most disgusting way spread his but cheeks and crapped on the floor in front of me. It’s all of the most horrifying behaviour as seen on supernanny type shows. He has called me all the horrible names his little mind could come up with, and told me he doesn’t like me, he wants me to go away and that I’m naughty.

Daddy gets this treatment too btw. He seems to be lashing out at the two of us equally. His behaviour towards his brother has not changed, he still adores him, always wants to touch and talk to him.

It’s so awful that if he had been with someone else (eg grandparents, aunties house) the day before I would seriously questioned whether he had been mistreated in their care simply due to how massive this character change is - and I really trust my family, so that’s how bad it is.

We were utterly bewildered at first and reacted by giving time out sessions at first and then as this provoked violence we ended up shouting at him. We assumed he was just having a bad day or something, and while the way we dealt with it wasn’t ideal, we just didn’t know what to do. We spent the night googling for help. Today, we took a different approach and calmly told him no, tried to let him cool down, and removed him from the area whenever he got to the stage of hurting anyone. We talked though things afterwards and explained why his behaviour was wrong in a simply way, The first day our parenting skills were iffy. Today, I would say we were impeccable. We did everything right , could find very little to criticise in how we handled things...and yet his behaviour was just as bad - worse, if anything!

Is this delayed reaction to havIng a new sibling? DS2 is two months now though, and DS1 shows no ill will towards him at all. We have been careful to give DS1 loads of attention and avoid doing anything to make him resent DS2. Up until now, things have been great. DS1 has been great 95 percent of days for the last year, and so much so in fact that although time out as a discipline method hasn’t really been working for us, we haven’t needed to worry about it enough to actually put it into use enough to bother thinking up new methods. This is partly why we were so underprepared for how to deal with his behaviour!

He doesn’t seem to be ill...no changes in his routine or anything. This seems to have been triggered by nothing! And each individual episode istriggerd by pretty much nothing too. I have spent the last two days delicately trying to manipulate him into staying calm as otherwise he begins to get what we call ‘silly’ - making up words and garbling them, jiggling about, being careless with his movements with this progressing into shrieking and rough play, carelessly tossing toys about and lashing out at the cat if it’s near. At that point we will need to ask him to stop, any even trying to stop him enough to make him listen triggers the bad behaviour - shouting no and insulting us, progressing into throwing, hitting spitting etc.

Honestly, today especially he has literally been trying to wind me up (and failing, at least externally I have managed to stay calm and collected). The whole day has been nothing but me trying to deflect his attention away from him trying to wind me up by behaving extremely badly.

I always watched supernanny and me and DH would scoff at the bad parenting skills on show. But now, this is US! And honestly, we try so hard to be good parents and despite constantly questioning ourselfpves and a tendency to be overly self critical, I actually thought we were doing a great job. Now I’m wondering where I went wrong, trying not to cry, and dreading tomorrow and how I am going to get through another day of this.
What the hell is wrong here?

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SeaToSki · 27/07/2018 01:46

Get him checked for a uti and also ear infections. They can sometimes have almost no symptoms as little ones cant really describe them, but can have an awful effect on behaviour

JiltedJohnsJulie · 27/07/2018 08:56

Yes, definitely get him checked out today OP, if you haven’t already.

We’re you with him when he was at DGPs and his Aunties? Are you 100% that nothing happened? Did they have any visitors?

Pansy0926 · 27/07/2018 09:26

He was with us, not with anyone else at all over the last week. Sorry if I wasn’t clear, I was just meaning that if he had been away with someone else, I would have wondered. I will see if his behaviour continues today and make an appointment

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 27/07/2018 17:09

How is he so far today OP?

Pansy0926 · 27/07/2018 18:07

He was starting to play up this morning and I ended up asking my mum to come and collect him to play with his cousins....he came back and was his old self. I wonder if he just needed to reset. I take the kids on walks and outings pretty often so it wasn’t cabin fever because of the summer holidays...so I suppose he just needed a break from me and DH/needed a change of scene.

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Pansy0926 · 27/07/2018 18:09

That’s not to say he’s not still being more boisterous than usual though! But his behaviour in general is still much better

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User24689 · 27/07/2018 19:14

Hi OP. This sounds awful, you poor things. I have an almost 3 year old and a 9 month old. My 3 year old did take a couple of months to settle when DS was born so I don't think that's outside realm of possibility.

However what sprung to mind when reading your post was that DD always gets 'silly' (as you described above) when she is getting an ear infection. It is usually my first sign, and she gets a few a year. Can guarantee when I'm about to lose my shit with her she will start complaining of the pain about 12 hrs later. So definitely take him to the GP for a full check up.

The toileting stuff - is he newly trained? I have heard regressions can happen after new babies?

Let us know how you go.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 27/07/2018 19:16

I’m confused op, I thought he hadn’t had a change in routine but you mention the possibility of cabin fever from summer holidays. Has he recently stopped preschool by any chance? When mine were younger, their behaviour would often deteriorate for the first week of the holidays. Could it just be that change? If it is, I’d tell him, as much as you can, what’s hapoening that day. Give him plenty of warning before activities change and keep calm and consistent.

Pansy0926 · 27/07/2018 19:50

No he has been toilet trained for six months now.

Change in routine - yes but nursery broke up for the holidays three weeks ago so it’s a bit odd that he would only be playing up now.as mentioned, I’ve been taking him out to exercise and socialise most days.

His behaviour is much improved, though a slight regression before bedtime - hopefully in the morning things will continue to improve though I will look out for the possibility of an ear infection though he says he isn’t sore anywhere. I will take more care to give him plenty of warning before activities change as suggested. Hopefully it’s just a passing phase

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