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Advice re 6 year old - very very long!

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Howtocatchastar · 16/06/2018 20:53

I haven’t been on for a good while, but use the site daily and am a regular reader on the forums, so hoping someone might have some advice. Please be kind, I appreciate this will all sound very negative - I’m just laying it all out there. I’m really struggling with my 6 year old son.

He’s always been quite a difficult child and was a very fussy baby and cried most of his first year and still tantrums most days now. I was always told how he’d be easier when he was sitting up, crawling, walking, talking etc etc. I’m still waiting! He’s exceptionally bright - not stealth, but he really is, very loud and extrovert/class clown type show off. He is though also very anxious at times and I feel the class clown show off behaviour hides a lot of this. School have no concerns and he’s only been a bit naughty for them on a couple of occasions over the year and they were pretty minor silly type things. He is still loud /wanting to be centre of attention/know it all, but they seem to deal with it without too much bother from what I see/am told.

He never listens to anything we ask, in fact I am exhausted from calling his name when he’s run off again after I asked him not to (I’ve tried whispering, asking quietly...but he continues to ignore), reminder of no tv/tablet if poor behaviour of running off, jumping on furniture when asked notto, taking toys off siblingsetc etc and continues...and I always follow through on this. We’re quite (well try to be!) easy going parents, but with him he pushes every single button all of the time and if when we have tried different tatics it’s even worse. We have other children, who are a complete breeze compared to him (they are younger and of course still have their moments). If I listed everything, I’d be here all day, but there’s always something with the eldest. Younger two at times copy his behaviour, which the oldest finds hilarious, but then triples the stress!

Whilst a baby, I spoke to the HV numerous times asking for help as to why is he so fussy/restless...”it’s his personality”, which I now see has a lot of truth in, but I cannot believe we have not had one day since he was born that had not had some difficulty. Wash his hair- tantrum of his highest proportions , no tv - tantrum, time to turn tv off - tantrum, someone touching his toys/books etc - tantrum.... This is all day every day.

Am I missing a trick? Should I just accept this is how he is? What are we doing wrong? We love bomb, we always praise for good behaviour, we treat, we do everything we can to give our son and our other children the best life and experiences we can to enrich their lives and show them how much we love and care. We consciously make time to spend with each child so no one is left out etc. We follow through on everything we say we will when disciplining.

He seems pretty popular at school and has literally invited to everyone’s party this school year, but I’m not sure why at times as he can be quite unkind by taking over/showing off/making everything about him. He doesn’t have any real close friends - he is very much a social butterfly and moves from friend to friend/friendship groups each day with no bother and all on his terms.

I know this all sounds very negative :-( I’m literally at breaking point and thinking I am missing a trick to make everyone’s life a little bit better. He is very loving, can be so kind and thoughtful at times, so it’s not all bad! He’s so bright and his mind never switches off, he loves school and learning. It would just be nice to have a day, just one, without any of the negative stuff above.

Many thanks for reading all of this - any advice appreciated!

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BeeMyBaby · 17/06/2018 08:48

An obvious suggestion - naughty step/time out? My dd2 (6) always had really bad tantrums since she was 1yo and the time out in the corridor really helped her regroup her thoughts so she could be coherent again.
Also check he is getting enough sleep, my dd2 is in a lot better mood if she gets 12 hours overnight.

Howtocatchastar · 17/06/2018 09:39

Thank you for your response. Yes, we have a ‘thinking step’. It works immediately and we get apologies/sorry/I embr do it again, but within a few minutes he’s back on it :-(

Sleep wise, he’s pretty good now (didn’t sleep through until after age 3). He’ll take himself off to bed quite early now or whenever he is tired. He is still an early riser, so him going to bed early works - as if he does go later than usual, he’s still up early. Early is around 5/5.30am. Lie at the latest is 6.30am - a couple of times a year since he was born.

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Donhill · 17/06/2018 10:05

My ds is like this. From the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to sleep his mind is going, and then anything he thinks of he wants. And he wants it now. So will tantrum. Then he has a tantrum because he says I wasn’t listening. Or I should have known he wanted his scooter. Etc etc. And I have 2 other dc so I know my ds is particularly demanding. He is also very loving, extremely astute and feels everything very very strongly. He is 6 and is still very demanding. But I have found that trying to accept that I have to be fully on the ball, fully engaged and using 100% of all my parental skills helps a bit. Plus trying to see his tantrums as a sign of distress and therefore rather than telling him off/threatening punishments etc it seems to work better if I reassure, hold him in some way, talk in a low very firm voice (but not shouting) and quite often if I drag out the talking/holding to explain why something is not going to happen/why he can’t do x or y, if I go on long enough then it can deflect his tantrum. But it is bloody exhausting!

Howtocatchastar · 17/06/2018 10:31

It’s nice to hear I’m not alone. It certainly is exhausting!

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CL0812 · 17/06/2018 21:02

Hiya I just joined mumsnet because I have read tons of posts but never had the courage to actually write a post ! I could have literally wrote this my 5.5 year old is exactly like this and my DH and I are at our wits end we have no idea what to do 😭 just had a day out to the zoo and it was torture constantly whinging , making angry faces , silly voices , snatching just generally being rotten . Then home and had a tantrum because he was only allowed 1 sweetie !! He is such hard work and I shout and feel awful after but just gets you to breaking point with the constant screaming and tantrums . I think we will need to try the completely ignoring him ! We can’t do time out he doesn’t sit and can’t send him to his room as he refuses to go up on his own (even to play) sorry no advice just know you are not alone ... I’m off to have another wee cry 😢

Howtocatchastar · 19/06/2018 17:41

There’s so many of us with these ‘extra’ hard work kids! Hope you’ve had a better few days since the zoo.

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maribella · 10/07/2018 19:41

My life with my daughter. I’ve even been to discuss at the school. Apart from having a strong personality, she’s doing extremely well and has formed friendships. I am at a loss...

OiWhoTookTheGoodNames · 11/07/2018 10:09

My 6 year old daughter's like this. We've been incredibly lucky this year in that her class teacher really has got her figured out and understands her - lots of the showing off, clever smart-arse backchat, trying to have the last word etc... comes to its head when she's feeling anxious and she's trying to mask that. One half of the class teacher job share really has that figured out and balances setting boundaries with selective ignoring incredibly well with her (the other tends to butt heads with her a bit unfortunately which works less well - but I back both up obviously).

She's incredibly bright, and incredibly like me... the combination of which makes her an incredibly effective mummy button pusher. What I've found works best is to openly tell her "I am going to ignore you now until you remember how to behave" and just walking away from her completely. If I engage her it feeds it and it just spirals out of control - ignoring her is definitely the way to go with DD1 when she gets one on her. I'll also tell her to go fuss over the dog and talk to the dog about it - she'll strop off and screech that she's not going to do it - while going and doing it - and it does seem to have a calming effect on her (helps having a docile cuddle-monster of a dog).

She is who she is - the strong will should help her in adult life - we just need to get her there with sanity intact, and when she's in a cooperative mood there is an utterly delightful little girl in there that we're seeing a lot more of lately thankfully.

Oh and she does not cope well with change and uncertainty (like me) - we've had a month of utter hell with her not knowing which class she was going into for next year with which teacher and which people... has really driven her into overdrive mode until she got all that worked out in her head.

Pookythebear · 12/07/2018 20:30

I think there must’ve been something in the air 6 years ago! I could’ve written the OP.

My DS is an ‘angel’ at school and who they describe I don’t recognise quite honestly Blush. From the moment I wake up I have to brace myself for whatever mood he’s going to be in. If he’s on form I couldn’t wish for any better company. In a bad mood? He’s like the proverbial bull in a china shop. Likewise he has a younger DS (3) who is the epitome of obedience and calm...

At a loss, but at least I’m not alone!

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