At what age do kids pronounce 'th' and 'r' sounds correctly?

[imaginaryfriend]

Dd, 4.5, has a good vocabulary and her grammar's fine but she still says 'w' for 'r' and either 'f' or 'v' for 'th' sounds. And I can't write down the sound she makes for 'ch'!

I wondered, roughly, when your kids changed to making the correct sounds and also if I should help or let it come in its own time.

My favourite is "glubs" instead of "gloves".

ds1 is very similar
extremely eloquent, good vocabulary but doesnt say th very well

eg tees for teeth
and sometimes w for r

i am not worried

my ds says 'fanks' but can say 'them' properly. He struggles with 'll' i.e. brilliant- he says 'breeyant' I think he struggles with 'z' as well. 'r' is fine though.
He is 2.1 btw.

Gosh that's good doing 'r' at 2 years old! My dd does a definite 'w' sound for 'r' words

popsycal I'm genuinely not worried either, just curious.

IF, I don't know the significance of those age brackets apart from what it says on the website, i.e. that 75% of Australian children will have achieved those sounds by those ages. It's a good website for general info about speech development, I used it loads when I was obsessing whether my deaf son would talk well. He's 7.5 now and still has some trouble with ch/sh and j/g. He could also do with slowing down. And speaking less generally

My hearing 2 year old can say all the sounds under the sun. Such a difference to DS and made me realise how easy and natural it comes for hearing children and how this should be just a minor distraction for parents rather than any concern (I read you're not concerned, just expressing some of my feelings on this).

i was very concerned when ds1 (3.5y) came home from nursery one day stating that "steve has to go to prison". steve is one of the staff. of course it turned out that it wasn't actually steve, but thief....

i am sure, IF, that those correct sounds will come in time...

LOL honeybunny!

Dd can do some of the sounds if she's thinking about it / asked. So I guess it's just got to become more 'second nature 'for her.

It was so nice to read this thread to see that other children at the same age and older have the same problem with the /th/ as my DS!!! I have been trying to get him to pronounce it properly, but I think I will lay off a bit now as I see that it's just a normal phase that kids have to grow out of... yet another one!. My favourite that my DS says is still "host-iple" for hospital!!!

how old is your ds siandjess?

I have a step son is is coming up for 11. He has problems saying “w” (sounds more like “v”) “r” (sounds more like “w”) and “th” will be either “f” or “d” depending on the word. He doesn’t have a speech impediment. It’s just laziness. He doesn’t read a lot and doesn’t have the interaction and opportunity to correct it. He’s starting senior school this September and I know he’s going to get picked on because of it. I’ve been mentioning it to his dad for over 3 years. His dad refuses to think there is a problem. Because if his decision I can’t get involved. I need advice on getting his parents to take this seriously.before anyone moans about me not being a parent, I have 3 grown up daughters.