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Worrying behaviour from 12yo dd

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Asteria36 · 29/04/2018 08:35

DH and I were awarded residency of his two children about 2 years ago. DH and his ex had been separated for 5 years prior to that and he only had bi-weekend access to his children in that time, so really hadn't had chance to properly observe Dsd's development. Dsd and dss are 12 and 10 and went through a lot of emotional trauma in the events that led to them living with us. That said dh and I both have a very strong feeling that dsd has an increasingly serious problem which goes beyond this.
Camhs (?) and school have viewed any behaviour as a result of recent trauma, however having spoken to friends and family who knew dsd before I met her at 6, this doesn't fit. We are really struggling to get any sort of assistance or insight, so as to help dsd develop more appropriate behaviour.
In essence, at her worst, Dsd entirely lacks empathy or remorse, is emotionally manipulative and cruel. Her behaviour towards her younger brother especially is a yoyo of cruelty and kindness - he really bears the brunt of her behaviour, although she has also aimed it at others. She can be utterly charming and sweet - especially when centre of attention. She seems to have less tumultuous relationships with younger children than with those of the same age. Dsd is clearly emotionally younger than her years. She will purposely forget information, or repeatedly ask the same question - this sometimes feels like she is trying to reassure herself. She is also virtually incapable of expressing her own opinions, thoughts or feelings (beyond happy and sad).
Whenever dh's ex throws another change into the dsc's life (she has recently moved house and returned to the disfunctional relationship, that was the part of the reason for the children living with us) the negative behaviour amplifies. Last night she punched dss in the head for accidentally knocking her and when she was sent to bed she had a screaming tantrum, the first in over a year. As soon as I walked into her room she stopped crying and showed absolutely no emotion whatsoever.
When she first came to live with us DH and I had to negotiate 3-4 hours of screaming and tantrums every bed time for about 6 months. She would only do it if DH was in the house - he really struggles with her emotional manipulation. We eventually stopped the pattern by sending dh to our (retired mental health nurse) neighbours house for a (much needed) glass of wine every night at bed time! I have a childcare background so I suppose this has helped.

Dsd is very clearly the favourite child with her mother - the only moment of empathy dsd has ever shown was to say she felt sorry for her brother because "everybody knows that I'm mummy's favourite". Although dsd has also said that she hates her mother for making her boyfriend the favourite before dsd. There is a strong theme of who or what is the favourite for her.
The frustrating this is that dsd is by no means an entirely bad child, it is quite clear that she has the potential to behave within a "normal" range, we just need to help her harness her powers for good! DH and I desperately want to help her, but we are struggling to get any recognition let alone assistance for this. At 12 we really desperately want to turn this around so that she can learn to develop a healthy relationship with others. What direction do we take this in. Our gp is ineffectual and school are lovely but ineffective.

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 29/04/2018 13:13

Poor girl, it sounds like she’s had an awful time of it. I’m not an expert, far from it, but from what I’ve read up on girls with autism, it might be worth reading up on it yourself.

Even without the difficulties she has been dealing with, this is a difficult time for girls. My DD is a couple of years younger but I’m finding it hard to encourage her to develop empathy and to talk about how she feels. I’ve recently bought her Knowing What to Say. I’m hoping it helps, along with the constant counselling I seem to be giving her Smile

JiltedJohnsJulie · 29/04/2018 13:14

Oh and there is a really good Preteen section on MN too Smile

Asteria36 · 29/04/2018 14:06

Thank you. We had thought perhaps there was underlying autism or something along those lines.

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 29/04/2018 15:08

If you’ve already been thinking about it, have you read up on autism in girls? Do you think it would be worthwhile having her assessed?

Asteria36 · 29/04/2018 16:49

DH is a little resistant to dd being labelled in any way - despite my explaining that it makes a positive difference for her as we will be able to help her. He is growing more inclined though. As wicked stepmother i really have to take parents lead on this, despite being primary carer by a very long stretch!

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Asteria36 · 29/04/2018 16:58

My gut instinct is that autism doesn't quite fit, even looking into the different presentations that girls may have. Her social interactions are not great, but I haven't seen any evidence of her being bothered by external stimulus. Her brother was diagnosed with SPD a couple of years ago, so we are quite hot on sensory issues. She does have a repetitive finger flicking gesture that she does when anxious though. My primary concern is the emotional manipulation and lashing out - those I feel will really damage her relationships in the future.

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 29/04/2018 17:46

Would DH be willing to have her assessed for a range of things including SPD? If DS has been diagnosed and you’re doing positive things to help him, it does seem only fair that he consents to getting DD assessed to see if there is anything you can do to ease her life Smile

Asteria36 · 29/04/2018 18:37

The major resistance is from the ex wife, she is belligerent in her belief that dd is perfect (very much the golden child) and the onslaught we endured the first time that was questioned has made DH reluctant to rock the boat. I have spoken to him more today and he is finally feeling strong enough (the exW induced stress made DH depressed for some time) to bear the resistance and abuse we will get when we have dd assessed.
Ds was referred by his previous school, but we had no idea until he came to live with us. His mother withheld the information and we only found out through school paperwork over a year after his diagnosis. Suffice to say he had absolutely no support for his SPD.

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 29/04/2018 21:19

It does sound like a really difficult situation OP.

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