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Panicking about 3 year old having learning disability

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EHR87 · 07/11/2017 09:04

My DD will be 3 years old in a few weeks, but she hasn’t really developed past 2. She was always a very vacant baby and toddler, very withdrawn and extremely sensitive to random things. This has got a bit better but she still doesn’t act like other kids.

She was way way behind on all her milestones, only learning to talk after 2 years old. 12 months later and it’s still near impossible to decipher what she’s saying most of the time. She also repeats nearly everything she says eg ‘Mummy, what you doing Mummy, what you doing?’ She spends most of her days whimpering, whinging, or crying. When I ask her what’s wrong, she says ‘Don’t know’. She will also religiously cry when she thinks it’s beftime, when I’m washing/brushing her hair, or when I’m brushing her teeth. (When I say cry, I mean totally lose it). She decides each week that she’s all of a sudden terrified of certain toys - this week she freaked out when she saw the Elmo toy that’s been sitting above her bed for the past year!

My biggest concern, however, is that she has no coordination so always manages to hurt herself in silly ways and has zero problem solving/common sense skills. When I asked her to get her coat off a little hook, for example, she just pulled the coat downwards. When I explained how to lift the coat up and off the hook, she just tugged on the metal hook itself - she gave up in the end. Similarly, yesterday she got off the toilet and I told her to get back on it; she had no idea how to do it. I directed her to get her little step; she didn’t, and instead chose to hide behind the bathroom door. (Also be aware that after toilet training her for 4 months, she still just doesn’t get it). I have also been tying for about 4 months to get her to say please when asking for things- she hasn’t done it once and persists with ‘need X Mummy’.

My DD isn’t interested in toys either, despite having loads! Instead she wants to follow me around all day, and will choose to sit and watch me doing chores over playing with her toys. At the age of 3, this doesn’t seem normal..

Then when she is naughty, which she has really cranked up recently, she doesn’t respond to discipline. She will refuse to look at me, get upset, but then switch back to normal and act like she’s completely forgotten she’s just been told off.

Food is another source of frustration. She has always ate and slept amazingly, but she still can’t use a fork and just wolfs everything down super fast with her fingers - yep even peas, spaghetti etc.. she’s the only one out of her and her step-sister (just turned 4) who needs a bib as she makes a mess like a baby.

She was born premature and I was in an abusive relationship. He would yell at me when I was in my third trimester, so she would have heard that. Since she was a tiny baby she was terrified of men, and was really horrible to my current partner for ages. (Luckily she appears to have got over that and follows him around now)

It’s really worrying me, especially given the fact that I have a 6month old daughter with my current partner and she is super bright - rolling at 6weeks, crawling and trying to stand up at 6months, and has the mannerisms, awareness, and coordination of an adult. My stepdaughter (4) is also a really advanced child and I remember her being worlds ahead of my DD last year. My DD, however, still wants to be a baby and crawls around saying Mama. Given her father was abusive (and an absolutely moron), and my current partner is about to start his PhD, does she just not have intelligent genes..?

While I’m able to have fully intelligible conversations with my 4 year old step-daughter and she can take herself off and have imaginary play, my DD is still clinging to me and acting like a baby - grabbing at everything, from post in the mailbox, to remotes and phones, to bits of cardboard on the side. Why hasn’t she grown out of needing to grab every little thing?

I know a lot of parents like to pretend all children are born equal, but it’s fact that some babies become Nobel Prize winning physicists, and others don’t have the same capabilities.. As a parent, I already know in my heart they’re going to need very difficult schools and support to meet their different levels of potential.

I have been trying to be super patient with her, even when she’s being ridiculous for no reason, but it’s so hard. I just want her to act and talk like the rest of the kids her age, particularly before she starts primary school!

I took her to a child psychologist because everything I google about her returns with AUSTISM AUTISM AUTISM, but she said at first glance she didn’t seem to have extreme autism because her eye contact was good when communicating. (She doesn’t give me good eye contact so I’m not convinced)

I really don’t want to put my child in a category which will define them, but I can’t carry on acting like this is normal toddler behaviour. My older brother has been autistic all my life, but my mother was the only one who refused to see it - so nothing was ever done about it. After paying for him to go to LA to do a pointless internship, funding his Masters which he never used, and paying for him to travel Europe every birthday, my parents bought him a £500k London flat despite the fact he’d never had a job (at age 30). I refuse to be that kind of parent as they need to live in the real world and make their own success!

I’m tearing my head out and I just want my DD to stop acting like a baby in a 3 year olds body. I’m tired of spending my day saying ‘Stop,’ ‘Say please,’ and ‘Talk in a normal voice’. It’s been a year and she’s not learning anything I teach her! I need for her to stop whining and just be happy and have fun!

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Hallloumi · 14/11/2017 18:55

I really don't think my post is critical but I'm sorry if it sounds as though it does. I agree that this does sounds possibly like ASD (though there are other possibilities) and talk about how the process of referral/diagnosis works in my area (something I know about) so I'm not dismissing that. Where I work the waiting time for ASD assessment after referral is 12-18 months at present. (Also GPs can't refer to SALT) so there is clearly a lot of variation between areas regarding that too).

Mamabear4180 · 14/11/2017 19:10

no sorry I mean't others being critical!

Health visitor referred my DD to SALT, I was under the impression the GP did too but maybe that's just for the paediatrician?

Waiting lists can be long, I just didn't want to OP to lose heart. It wasn't long in our case (thank God)

Biscuitrules · 24/11/2017 00:45

OP - what's her understanding like? Does she definitely understand what you are saying e.g. re getting the coat from the hook and going back onto the toilet? I did wonder re autism as well which can present in many forms.

The other thing that struck me is that you also sound very frustrated with her, wanting her to behave in different way and comparing her to her siblings. My advice would be to STOP doing all of this - let go of the expectations about what she "should" be doing at this age. It is not helping and not making either of you happy.

You need to mother her on her level, maybe go back a few stages developmentally. Take pride in what SHE is achieving and if she wants to be with you / sit with you take pleasure in her company. If you can re-connect with her you will be better able to meet her needs. If she does have autism (or learning disabilities) it will be a different journey but you can still be proud of her as she makes what are achievements for her even if behind her chronological peers. Its not the worst of all worlds.

Equally children (of whatever nature) can make massive leaps.

Biscuitrules · 24/11/2017 00:53

Sorry wanted also to add that the discipline thing sounds like my probably-autistic DS (aged 3.5) who just doesn't understand the concept of someone else being cross. And the repetition / "don't knows" might be a sign of language difficulties.

The fact she wants to be with you is positive - take advantage of that to try to gain her attention and have some playful little interaction.

My DS has made huge progress in the last 12 months so don't write her off. Good luck.

Imaginosity · 24/11/2017 09:01

I have one child with autism and two without. Autism is a possibility so I would see a professional to confirm it or rule it out.

Having said that, a lot of what you describe about your daughter sounds normal for a 2 or 3 year old. They are still 'babies' really. You can't expect them them to have the sense and maturity of older children or adults. You seem to expect so much from her - like remembering to say please, eating without making a mess, being toilet trained very well. Whether she has any underlying issues or not you should relax on the expectations and accept that she is a tiny child.

Witchend · 24/11/2017 10:02

Some of this could be an issue, but we can't diagnose on the internet. Some other things sounds totally normal.
My dd1 preferred chores to toys at that age. Nothing was better than being asked to dust/hoover/load the washing machine. I can assure you she's now 17yo and has the usual teenage reaction when asked to dust/hoover/load the washing machine. In fact just at the point when they start becoming competent enough to do it on their own usually.
Dd2 was much more interested in toys, ds mostly toys but loved some things-cleaning the cooker for one. No I don't understand that, I hated it, but he'd beg to do it for a treat. Hmm

Pushing and not really interacting at 3yo again is normal. Might be slightly later than average, but I don't think so. I'd be concerned at 5yo, but only slightly.

I've 3 dc. I think they're all similar abilities intelligence wise. But they all displayed different behaviour at 3yo. One did a lot of finger in mouth, one never put things (other than food) in her mouth even as a small baby. One spoke early and clearly, two needed SALT.

There's nothing here to me that screams there's an issue. But I'm hearing it not seeing it, nor able to compare her to her peers. Talk to nursery, talk to the GP/HV. Let them look at her, consider the situation. But don't assume there's something wrong, she may just be developing slower at this point.

scottishclive · 27/11/2017 17:51

None of us are experts or have seen your DD, but my impression is that she is quite anxious, understandable given all you and her have went through. So perhaps small steps with support and playing lot of things together - such as lego sitting on your knee.

But of course 3 years is nothing, some kids act like 6 year olds, some act like 2 year olds. But the same kids at 11 might be the exact same.

So patience and small steps and keep talking to her (and the nursery to get feedback).

Best of luck.

user1495739076 · 29/11/2017 10:04

Have you looked into dyspraxia?
Children with this are often seen as clumsy and have difficulty with coordination and using knives and forks and also don't always engage in imaginative play and can have temper tantrums and sensory issues
If you can book a double appointment with your gp for yourself and your daughter to discuss your concerns and explain to them how difficult your finding the situation so they help you manage the stress and anxiety of worrying about your daughter

user1495739076 · 29/11/2017 10:09

dyspraxiafoundation.org.uk
They have a helpline you can call aswell if you think this sounds like your daughter x

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