Please or to access all these features

Behaviour/development

Talk to others about child development and behaviour stages here. You can find more information on our development calendar.

Joint attention deficit anything but autism

30 replies

gaelle79 · 27/03/2017 09:01

Hello everyone,
I posted here before about my DD. She is such a mixed bag that it is difficult for people and me to figure out what's really going with her.
She doesn't point at all and can't follow a point either.
On the other hand, she has some pretend play and imitates people in their daily routines etc.
Now I'm wondering if anything else than ASD can cause an impairment in JA ?

OP posts:
gaelle79 · 28/03/2017 09:17

@Paperthinspider: thank you for responding to my post. I wanted to ask you a bit more about your son. You said he did not point
at 18 months, when did he strat to point ?
At my DD's age (16-17 months) how was he ? Did he have any word, babbled, followed points, had good eye contact, sensory issues... ?

OP posts:
Devilishpyjamas · 28/03/2017 09:50

Hi gaelle - yes the yoga poses count :) In my son's case I didn't realise he didn't imitate as he was my first. So for example when he hadn't started drinking out of a cup by himself I just taught him hand over hand (did it hand over hand for a week and then he 'got it'). It was only when I had my second that I realised that you don't usually have to do that and babies usually start drinking out of cups by copying those around them! We eventually managed to teach him to imitate by the age of about 8 and then he made loads of progress very quickly. He must have had some imitation at some stage as he would pretend to feed a doll or use a telephone.

He's 17 now, non-verbal, has severe learning disabilities and severe autism.

In terms of early signs there weren't that many but he regressed. So he lifted up arms to be picked up, played peek a boo and started with early words and lots of speech sounds - he then lost those speech sounds - but other skills (such as peekaboo) remained intact.

He's always been sociable and likes adults but he did used to ignore other children who approached him. He didn't point but would share attention - so for example if he saw a plane he would look at it, look at me while saying 'eehee' (plane) then look back at it. He's always been affectionate.

Imitation was not something that came easily to him (and that can make it hard to learn verbs). And he has a very severe verbal dyspraxia - so he has very good unserstanding now, but still no speech.

He was late but within usual range for crawling (13 months) and walking (17 months).

He had a very good understanding of nouns from a young age, but has gaps in understanding other bits of language. He is very good at guessing from context and key words. He has an exceptional memory although we didn't realise until google maps was invented and he then showed us he remembered things from the age of two.

Sorry this is rambling but early signs were:
1). No pointing
2). Difficulties following a point (could sort of do it sometimes)
3) Ropey at responding to name in busy places
4) he used to run objects past the corner of his eye
5) as a toddler he'd get stuck at thresholds - e.g. Moving from carpet to floorboards
6) he used to not let his legs/feet touch sand or grass so if we sat his down on grass or the beach would balance on his bum holding his legs off the ground.

I first noticed issues age 17 months and then drove myself mad wondering. The kids who were showing similar (or worse) signs than ds1 at the same age all went on to do an awful lot better than him. I think if you can park it a bit while getting on with whatever will help you be able to park it (for me that meant getting some SaLT exercises - and we did get a really good noun vocab doing that which has helped) then you can maybe reduce your worries as well. Honestly it was probably the worst time of my life - and although we didn't have a happy ending that was actually much easier to deal with emotionally than the wondering.

I was quite worried about ds3 for a while but found a way to park that and he is absolutely fine. An awful lot of kids who do show early issues go on to be fine - please don't assume our story is common.

Devilishpyjamas · 30/03/2017 06:41

This just came upon my Facebook feed, thought it might be useful. In my son's case life the flap books were really popular (the other suggestions not so much -but he would engage briefly).

speechbloguk.com/best-toys-early-language-development/?utm_content=buffer0bbd4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

gaelle79 · 12/04/2017 15:30

Hello everyone,

DD started to point a little a few days ago. For the first time, she pointed at a bird in the park but made no eye contact during or after.
Since then, she pointed randomly to things but only once or twice to request (still no eye contact). What she does a lot, is point to my nose and wait for me to say the word "nose" or point to other parts (eyes, head, and mouth) so I can label them.

Where does that fit into the "pointing" game? Can I consider her to be pointing now, just starting to or still not there since she doesn't make eye contact nor do it that often??

Beside that she's still not walking and only picked one new word "dodo" (meaning night night) but i not sure she really knows the meaning.

She's in PT and ST, about to start OT.

OP posts:
Newmomma2705 · 05/04/2020 15:49

I know it's been a long time but would an update about yout DD as currently going through the same xx

New posts on this thread. Refresh page