The terrible twos really are shit, aren't they

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DS (my second child so I should bloody be used to this) is SO SO SO 2 right now. He's doing my head in. He's so contrary it's untrue and is a terrible sleeper (both going to bed and sleeping through), eats like a Neanderthal (when he isn't chucking it on the floor declaring "I don't like this". Really? REALLY? It's all you would eat last week), knows when he is weeing or pooing but GOD FORBID we suggest he use the potty. I'm not really looking for advice. Just company in my misery. Anyone else counting down to their kid's 3rd birthday?

Two and three are my favourite ages for children, even though I would cheerfully have given mine away at times.

I have just returned from 2 weeks of hell in a beautiful villa in Spain. I genuinely asked my dh to get me a doctor at one point because the child was driving me so mad I thought being professionally medicated was the only way out! This is dc 3. Clearly my 1st ds and dd are perfect children who I took for granted. The plane, I can't even bring myself to talk about right now. My dh and I are currently drowning our sorrows and he is online booking 2 nights away in a hotel down the road for 3 weeks time (alone!!) to try and recover. And mine isn't 2 until September weepsandstealsdhwine

Oh and seeing me in a bikini everyday was like bringing this boob obsessed monster to an all you can eat bloody buffet!! Actually ate a cheese and ham toastie with my left boob out and didn't know.

Lol Mrs gosling. I am on that holiday right now. Thankfully we're in Spain not Dubai so it's all ok. I fit right in on the beach ;)

DS was vile from the week before he turned 2 until he was 3.6. We used to call him the seagull because of his shriek. It was terrible. He is now 4.2 and delightful, as he has been for the past few months. I keep being really baffled in the mornings as we have spare time and I can't work out why and then I realise it is we don't have to spend ages battling with & cajoling DS.

Today's adventure included attempted suicide (his). If he's not trying to climb out windows (thank goodness we live on the ground floor), he's spraying himself in the face with the cleaning products I had gotten out five minutes earlier for the cleaner today. Thank goodness he started with the window cleaner and not the spray bleach which was in the other hand.

I hear ya.

Wobblywondeewoman, you actually ARE a wonder woman. How are you still stringing sentences together?

See? I can't even type your username....

We should start a club. The It's Not Me, It's Two Club.

Hehe this thread has me giggling at the thought of all these tiny ragey toddlers.

My 2 year olds latest 'thing' is to throw/smash/tear things apart in a sudden rage when he's not got his own way. Mainly food.

e.g.
"Want a biscuit!"
"Sorry, it's dinner soon. Here, have half a biscuit"
"No! Raaaaaaaaaaargh!" [takes bicuit half, rips it into a million crumbs with both hands, throws ruined biscuit onto the floor]

Toddlers are totally irrational. Being offered half a biscuit is such an insult he'd rather have NO biscuit.

Imagine if adults behaved this way: My boss offered me a £1k payrise and I was expecting a £2k payrise, so I naturally I screamed '£1k?! What the fuck! Shove your money up your arse!' before lobbing a load of stationery across the office and rolling around on the floor. As you do.

Mine are nearly 26 & nearly 21 & I look back at photos of them at 2 & think weren't they lovely! They weren't they were monsters too but it's funny how the rose coloured glasses kick in when they are grown up!

Hahaha BayLeaves that's exactly how they act. They're so irrational.

My daughter has taken to putting her hand in her mouth when she has a tantrum (literally no idea why) which she inevitably ends up biting and then has a tantrum because her hand hurts and I'm not doing anything about it because I can't understand her request to "kiss it better" because she's having a tantrum with her hand in her mouth. Just ding put your bloody hand in your mouth!

What it about putting their fist in their mouths? Mine has too many.tantrums because he wants food yet if he took his hand out his mouth and asked id get some, or he could go and take something from the fridge as he has been able to do for over a yr. But no some days hand in the mouth screaming is the only logical solution to.hunger!
Still just six weeks to.go before he turns three and the four months until I'm blessed with my second two yr old.
She is already showing herself to be a screamer of previously unknown proportions.

Will they change over night on their third birthday? Please say yes as the. I can at least start the count down.

Yes! It'll be like the opposite of this....

m.youtube.com/watch?v=dLuEY6jN6gY

Ok great. Only 6 months to go.

Amen!!!
Oh god yes, the irrational behaviour, the shouting, the hitting....DD1 had a touch of the 'twos' here and there but DS is something else. He was such a sweet, easy little baby too - I miss him!
Offering a choice of two always worked for DD1 but DS makes a mockery of it.
E.g. me:" Time for teeth brushing, who will do it tonight - mummy or daddy?"
DS :"Nobody" (complete with shrug and eye rolling at my stupidity!)

I was literally just coming on here to look if there were any threads on 2 year olds behaviour.

We've had a really bad week 18 months of full scale tantrums and just reading this has cheered me up.

When my DS (3) was 2 he went through a phase of whining about EVERYTHING. Just as I started why on earth we were trying for a second child I got my lovely boy back (for the most part).
For those still in the grips of the terrible twos- don't lose hope- it gets better. for you all until then.

DS is 2.11 and showing zero signs of improving. I fear 3 will be no different. Every day is a battle to get him fucking changed and dressed do not talk to me about potty training, it is just not happening. Leaving the house can take hours if I don't have another adult here to help me dress him...

Have you tried leaving him to.dress himself while telling him about all the fun stuff you have planned, then tell him to shout if he needs help, don't want to be late after all ... Starting working about 2-2.5 with ours. Although we have another smaller one racing to get yo those fun things too and going without him if he is t ready, which is also an incentive.

I agree about letting him get himself dressed which is fine 60% of the time. 30% of the time clothes get out on the wrong way around and trying to correct it results in a tantrum and the other 10% of the time is them either attempting to break the clothes or strangle themselves which again ends in a tantrum if you try to stop their death. But it could cut down 60% of clothing related tantrums so worth a shot!

He can't dress himself in the slightest, sadly. He's a bit behind with a few things. Massively speech delayed, which leads to some epic tantrums...

Yes yes yes! Only another 9 months till we hit 3 DD on the whole is quite good although tonight has been one of those nights. We were fine at nursery pick up and through dinner until DH returned home. Then all hell broke loose and we had full scale crying/ tantrums/ disagreements and bedtime was a loooong drawn out process tonight. Everything was met with a 'no not that one' or a constant change of mind- which as we all know makes no sense whatsoever to anyone else but other 2 year olds! I have no idea why as often seems to be the case with 2 year old children in my experience however putting it down to change in atmospheric pressure tonight !

Mine was chatting himself to sleep last night. By happily repeating 'no' for about twenty minutes. Just getting the practice in!