Dry at night, when?

[HumberLass]

Hello mumsnetters
I was hoping for some experiences on when your children were dry at night? Our DS is 4 1/2 and still very reliant on dry nights pull ups at night, he's really reluctant not to wear them, or be woken up to wee when we go to bed (he's a really deep sleeper and gets very very upset if we try to wake him) we are stopping drinks an hour before bed and making sure he goes for a wee before he goes to bed but other than this, should we just wait until his pull ups are dry in the morning? What sort of age should I expect him to be ready? It's becoming a bit of a problem as he's waking up wet every single morning, right through his pull up and all over his bed so we're washing and changing his sheets every night as well as pyjamas, and going through loads of washing, we don't really know why he's so wet in the morning but recently it's been every morning, and we're not sure what to do. Any experiences or advice would be great please.

Ds was almost 8.
Deep sleeper, sometimes wetting through his pull ups.

We ended up buying an alarm from amazon and when he had done a week with no alarm going off, we ditched the pull ups.
Once wet night since (he was quite poorly) and he's 9 now.

Some tips...
Double void before bed, so wee then teeth then wee.

Double layer the bed so you can strip a layer off in the night if needed.

Getting them up to pee isn't recommended.

Try and avoid dark drinks like blackcurrant and coke.

Try and get him to drink more during the day as it will increase his bladder capacity.

Check out the Eric website.

Don't stress, it is totally normal and not considered a medical issue until at least 7.

It is due to his brain needing to release a hormone to keep him dry at night, nothing to do with parenting or laziness

Just to provide an opposite viewpoint. And I know this is going to sound smug but heyho, it's the truth in our case.
My DDs were both potty trained by 2, just like in the old days. One Dd became dry at night at the same time as day and has never wet the bed. The other stopped wetting at about 4 years old. Wetting for her happened once or twice a week.

If I were you I would ditch the pull-ups altogether and go cold turkey. You're washing the sheets anyway. I'm a big believer in letting them get wet, owning their own bodies, cause and effect.

(Besides, the world doesn't need any more plastic waste. If you're going to continue with night nappies it might be a good idea to investigate washable, reusable ones).

Its not always about learning to not wet yourself. OP can't inflict weeks/months of wet sheets on her son if his body isn't ready to stop bed wetting, just because some kids are dry at night when toddlers.

My DNephew is 7 1/2 and not dry. He's not producing vasopressin (anti-diuretic hormone) so there's absolutely no point in trying to get him to stay dry overnight.

He's seeing the GP about it now and she's not worried yet.

Dt1 is 4.5 and no where near being dry. We try cold turkey on the pull ups for a couple of weeks and she consistently wets the bed around 2am.

DT2 on the other hand has been dry at night since she was three.

I'm just going wit the pull ups for ow and will have another go at Easter.

My eldest was dry at night before 2 kiwi, should I have let ds sleep soaked in urine for nearly 6 years to let him learn a lesson because that's when his sibling had the good fortune for their brain to release a hormone?

He would not wake up when soaked through, and I wouldn't have done that to him just because I was washing sheets anyway.

Thanks everyone that's all really helpful, I feel a bit better now. We thought about training pants with the inserts but they don't hold much and as DS is wetting through a pull up at night I'm guessing it's more than one wee. We've been leaving the landing light on at night and putting a potty in his room but he's a pretty deep sleeper and just doesn't wake up when he needs to wee. I asked him how he felt about trying with no pull up but he really didn't want to, he told me he will try when he's 5! We're not making a big deal out of it for him but we do discuss it with him and he's told us he just wakes up wet. I don't really want to cold turkey it, I did think about it but the idea of him laying in his wee for however long doesn't sound very nice. We tried the mattress pads but they end up all scrunched up! Good idea to double layer the bed, thank you thanks for your thoughts folks, much appreciated.

*thank you thanks(!) sorry, working away just finished a 5 hour drive!

My three boys were all dry at night at different times.

DS1 wasn't totally reliable until he was 9, DS2 was 7. DS3 on the other hand was dry day and night at 2.5.

I used to do the double layering the bed thing, with a plastic sheet in between the layers, so that DS1 could change it himself during the night. I was always of the view that the least fuss that was made of it, the better.

At 4.5, definitely no need to stress about it.

Oh and DS only ever drinks water or watered down orange, he drinks a lot actually, so it's been a struggle cutting out drinks after 6 but he understands.

Thank you, I feel reassured now

DS was almost dry at night when he toilet trained quite early.But when he stopped napping he started wetting because there wasn't enough time btw dinner drink and bed.

My husband got him dry by 'lifting'. I know what you mean by them being in too deep a sleep to rouse when you go to bed. What worked was that we were on holiday and they were sharing a bed so DH got him at the right stage of a sleep cycle rather than when he was deep asleep.

When you go to bed is his pull-up dry or already wet?

They're might be a reusable option that could be economical if he isn't dry for a while. The lady who runs this website is great at answering questions and advising.
www.thenappylady.co.uk/trainer-pants.html

My nephew was still wetting at 4 but the GP said wouldn't refer til later. At the hosp they said he didn't drink enough regularly throughout day to teach body to hold a full bladder.

Another theory I've heard is that unrecognised constipation is a cause of bed wetting www.bedwettingandaccidents.com/#!free-downloads/c7bb

My son is a bit younger - 3.5. We still have accidents in the day which can really frustrate me but sometimes he wakes in the morning completely dry. Up until he went through the random dry nights, he would wake up soaked right through. The pull ups I think aren't probably meant for more than a few wees so we switched back to nappies. Maybe do that until he can get through the night. I remember my brother still wearing nappies at night when he was 5 (he's my twin) but I was dry by 3 years old. I think it just takes some children longer but I guess if it's only at night that he's like this, then it's manageable. I'd definitely go back to nappies or maybe put 2 pull ups on him. Sorry not much help but maybe a little help on the wet bed sheets!

3 years old. He's always held it too long though

DD was 7 it really was like a switch it just short of happened. I was just about thinking it was time to take her to the doctors about it to then she started walking up with dry pull ups. Until then shed been a very heavy wetter overnight and would often at through. I had to go up a size in pullups for her, it really is worth getting the night time ones for bigger kids they do hold more epically if you have a heavy wetter. She would still leqcue through those sometimes as well.

DS was dry day and night at the same time he was very late potty training at 4(I've a whole other thread on that one). But I'm sure he was already dry overnight before he was in the day. As it's not something that they can actually control.

Thanks that's really helpful. When we go to bed he's still dry, that's usually about 11/12ish. Interestingly, DS used to, and still sometimes does hold his poos, he started about 2 and stopped about 3.5, he still sometimes does but is much much better, we were under a specialist as it got quite bad, I have wondered if there was any way it was linked. We still have to use movicol every day and thankfully DS drinks a lot throughout the day which helps. During the day he's been dry since about 2 1/2