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When will DS stop getting over tired?

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Mindexplode · 26/09/2015 17:32

DS is 6. He was awake at 6, has been to football and a birthday party today and is now crying his heart out because I have told him off (he was messing around on a rocking chair, I told him a couple of times to go steady and he tipped it over, I was less than impressed). He is now having a tantrum while in his time to think (similar to time out) and he sounds like a toddler. I am waiting for him to calm down but I had hoped by now he would be able to cope with two activities in one day. His twin brother is getting his jarmies on and singing to himself happily

Any ideas?

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Mindexplode · 26/09/2015 18:47

Anyone?

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Mindexplode · 27/09/2015 06:35

Well it looks like its just me with this issue
DT have been awake since 6 again and despite my efforts are determined not tyo go back to sleep even thought dt2 already is crying and whining over nothing. How can I get through the day without losing my temper and without him crying and winging all day

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Iggly · 27/09/2015 06:41

He's probably tired from school as well?

I would ait with him and help him calm down as opposed to leaving him to it. Sometimes they do need our help (my ds is 6 next week)

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Mindexplode · 27/09/2015 06:47

Dh tried that last night, it took 45 mins to calm him down! I thought we were done with the toddler stage but its like that plus attitude and everything at volume 10. His hearing is fine but he shouts all the time!

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belindarose · 27/09/2015 06:57

My DD is also 6 and just like this. Also up at 6 every morning. Always too tired to read before bed, whiny and miserable a lot of the time, thumb in her mouth half the day, because she needs more sleep.

Her 3 year old brother doesn't sleep much more - about half an hour earlier to bed and up the same time - but doesn't get so tired.

Hoping to hear some tips on your thread.

Neddyteddy · 27/09/2015 06:58

Maybe he needs more of a wind down to drop off in the evening.

Of course he's going to be whiney if you are loosing your temper and giving him negative attention

belindarose · 27/09/2015 06:59

It makes it a long day to listen to whining and arguing - especially at the weekend!

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Mindexplode · 27/09/2015 07:02

Yes neddyteddy the hour of 1 2 1 attention I gave his yesterday after the party while his brother was occupied doing something else means that he is being winey! Have you told two children countless times not to do something only for them to do it and been sweetness and light afterwards? He could have really hurt himself!

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belindarose · 27/09/2015 07:04

How to get through the day? Difficult isn't it? DD is harder when like as she can't entertain herself as well as usual, but can't play with her brother as she gets too cross. I need to do weekend chores (work FT) and school work (teacher), so although I will spend lots of time with them today (before the doomsayers arrive saying I'm mortally damaging them by working), it won't be full on 1:1 time (there was lots of that yesterday). We will be baking, walking the dog, cooking and eating roast together.

belindarose · 27/09/2015 07:06

If it might help, mindexplode, I use the techniques in a book called '1,2,3 Magic' to get better behaviour without losing my temper. I never have to say something countless times - I say it once then they get a count of 3 to stop. Try the book - it has other good ideas too, but that's the main principle and I find it takes the arguing/ emotion out of discipline. Then I can save my energy (in theory!) for the nice stuff.

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Mindexplode · 27/09/2015 07:11

Thanks belindarose I was planning baking this afternoon but my mil is coming round so not sure what will happen. Most of the time I do 1 2 3 and it works but moving the rocking chair from their bedroom and they haven't looked at it in years to the lounge it became favourite toy.

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belindarose · 27/09/2015 07:17

We don't have family close by - visits tend to be longer ones - but I do sometimes wish we did as different people around would break up the day for me a bit (DH working this weekend). Do yours behave well with MIL? Mine get a bit over indulged but it's nice to have someone else to give them attention!

I mentioned to DH this morning that I remember a time (before DC) that if I heard the dawn chorus start I would think I was awake far too early. Now, if I hear it, I think 'Wow, it's dawn and I'm still in bed'!

We've been up for 90 minutes. We'd already had a tantrum over breakfast cereal, some lovely playing with cuddly toys, but now they have made dens in the living room and the fighting has started.

addictedtosugar · 27/09/2015 07:19

I'd have tried to enforce some quiet time between football and party, by putting on a film. But it would be just as likely that the two would play fight rather than chill!!

I still get grumpy when I haven't had enough sleep (or food. - that's a point, does food help?), so don't think it was very stops, you just get better at self realisation.

belindarose · 27/09/2015 07:24

Another thought, DD needs lots of alone time, which I try to make time for every day (time to draw, make things, play with dolls etc). Your DS might be similar, but always has his DTbrother. It's difficult for us to do this with a 3 yo around.

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Mindexplode · 27/09/2015 07:51

We are actually moving house so DT can have a decent sized room each. I'm hoping having there own space will help with the early waking and the non stop fighting! It is great to have pil so close, they are lovely people but it does change the dynamics a bit

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belindarose · 27/09/2015 07:56

We're moving too. The layout of the new house means they'll still be sharing a bedroom, but ample space elsewhere to divide and rule!

Unfortunately, there's going to be a few months of packing and unpacking ahead, so less attention and more tiredness for a while.

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Mindexplode · 27/09/2015 07:59

That's what we are living at the moment, two stressed parents, house half packed and no certainty is making life tough all round

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Devonicity · 27/09/2015 08:04

I still have quiet time on most non school days (kids 7 and 4 here). An hour after lunch in their room to read or play or snooze. My oldest gets over stimulated and needs the quiet and my youngest still sometimes needs to sleep. And I like to lie down with a book, too!

belindarose · 27/09/2015 08:07

Quiet time sounds nice. I'm trying to stop the 3 year old napping though as he sleeps better at night without one.

Are your DCs changing schools, OP? DD worries more about that when she's tired too.

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Mindexplode · 27/09/2015 08:18

No same school and area, just moving to a bigger house

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ffffffedup · 27/09/2015 21:54

How about encouraging him to stay in his bed / bedroom when he wakes so if he wakes at 6 that's fine but he has to stay in bed reading or watching TV so even tho he's not asleep he's still relaxing. Say there's no going downstairs til at least 8am (get him a clock for his room) try and and get him to have a quiet half hour during the day not necessarily asleep but down time

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