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Is this normal ?

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paradise · 05/05/2004 21:05

Hi I'm new here, although have read through many posts before.

My son is nearly 2.5 talks alot,using 4-5 word sentences, although his pronounciation is a bit weak, and echolia quite strong still,understands alot, points and is a very happy child. He is going through quite an aggressive stage, pushing others at playgroups, mainly over toys and not wanting any other peers invading his space.I've started to avoid going to mother and toddler activities which I know is wrong. Likes his routines and have just got him over having to ring the doorbell and knock the door every time we get home!! Also his memory seems very good. Did go through a stage of lining up cars, although apparantly these are parked if you ask him! Sorry if this is a bit long. Does any of this sound strange or am I being paranoid?

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stace · 05/05/2004 21:14

sounds quite normal development to me, however what is echolia? think you need to just ride the waves and he'll get over it!!

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paradise · 05/05/2004 21:21

thanks for your support Stace

echolia ( I think thats how its spelt) is copying the ends of sentences, which I belive is normal for this age. Regarding the pushing, I had hoped it would have eased off by now, he's being doing it for 3 months!!!
Any other messages much appreciated!

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Jimjams · 05/05/2004 22:17

Well from your message I would guess you are worrying about autism. Don't get too stressed about the car lining up stuff. Loads of kids to that. My autistic son hasn't ever lined anything up in his life- his NT brother lines up everything (makes trains).

Pushing etc is normal at his age. My younger son (NT - definitely) - is also quite into his routines, but they are quite different from his autistic brother's compulsions. For example his autistic brother likes to ring the doorbell- if he doesn;t he will not- and I mean will not- go into the house. If I pushed him in he would scream and headbut the door until he could push the bell. His younger brother copying (being able to copy is very good sign that you are NOT autistic) likes to push the doorbell as well- but will protest for a very short time if for some reason he couldn't.

Pointing (especially pointing out things of interest) is a sign that all is pretty well. My NT son;s language development sounds the same as yours- his pronounciation is appalling - and I think he has a speech problem, but his language is fine and he's definitely not autistic.

I wouldn't worry about memory either. Certainly my autistic son's visual memory is ridiculously good- but I don't think that's a sign as such. Other than being a bit unbalanced on the visual stuff (too good iyswim).

One very good "test" is how easy it is to attract attention. If I say to my younger son "oh look at that over there" he's really interested and tries to see. Ds1 meanwhile isn't remotely interested, and can't follow a point anyway. We can hold an object of interest right up to him and he still avoids looking. DS2 meanwhile is trying to see what we are showing him.

Hope this puts your mind at rest.

sammac · 05/05/2004 22:28

Paradise, my son is also 2.5 and can behave in the same aggressive way by hitting or throwing things or headbutting. I think it's just cos he doesn't know what to do / say/ frustration.

At my childminder's yesterday, he threw a toy at the other wee boy there as he apparently wanted him to play with him. I got a sort of row from the cm because of it!! Just what I needed.

nancysgirl · 05/05/2004 22:32

Jimjams, could I just ask -what is NT?? Have read your messages before as I am studying language/speech impairment in children and they are very informative!
PS HAve essay to write on above-could I hand it over to you???

Janh · 05/05/2004 22:35

nancysgirl, it's "Neurologically Typical" ie "normal". There is a whole website devoted to normality as a medical problem. Quite funny! (Will look for it in my favourites list, if nobody beats me to it.)

Janh · 05/05/2004 22:38

Found it! Here - Institute for the study of the Neurologically Typical.

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paradise · 05/05/2004 22:58

Thank you for your messages,

jimjams, thank you for your advice, I think I may have been reading too much! Just, that some days you worry don't you, especially when you've had a bad day.

Yes my DS does point out things of interest and I think his ability to attract attraction is o.k too, will look out for that.

I think most of his routines seem to be easing of now, at bath time he routinely looks in the mirror whilst I pick him up in his towel, tonight I thought I would see what he would do if we didn't look in the mirror, he protested a little but I was able to distract him, I don't know who's controlling who sometimes!

His memory still amazes me, who bought presents, wanting to play with a particular toy at a friends house etc.

Thanks for your advice, will just have to ride through the pushing!! x

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Jimjams · 06/05/2004 09:55

ha ha no thanks nancysgirl! Follow janh's link for a description of NT.

I'd keep away from google etc paradise unless you are realy sure there is a problem iyswim. It can be helpful but it can also put ideas in your head!

nancysgirl · 06/05/2004 14:59

Thanks janh-that clears that up then-thought I had missed something in my reading!
Quite amusing isn't it?

AllisonRose · 01/06/2004 23:19

Hello to you all who were talking on May 5th; yes, I'm a bit late, but please offer your advise to this. My son is almost three, is diagnosed as being Autistic, but sometimes he seems "normal". (perhaps it merely my form of denial) He plays with his sister and brother; however, things usually "go bad" with him throwing toys or biting. This has been going on "forever". He hurts others at daycare, is definately socially delayed, but he talks (although mostly unitelligibly). He has anxieties/obsessions, doorbell - yes! Ketchup - he needs excessive amounts, especially when the plate underneath begins to peer through it. Has tantrums sometimes for things I can detect, and boy are they whoppers! Easily upset, etc. etc. Any of this sound familiar? It could sound a bit like a hot headed toddler - or autism... Any ideas; what's your experience?

Tortington · 02/06/2004 02:29

hiya allison, although i can't answer your post there is a special needs thread or 10 with mums who have a vast amount of knowledge.

just didnt want you to feel ignored!

xxx

Jimjams · 02/06/2004 13:20

replied on the other threead- but had to say doorbells Yep - ours has to be rung before ds1 will walk through the door. Other obsessions are liighs (at the moment they have to be on or he won't go into a room), clocks, washing machines and hoovers.

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