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Dd just had a full blown meltdown...please please help!

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OhWhatAPalaver · 18/03/2015 21:17

Dd is 3 years 3 months. She was hitting and kicking so I said she had to go straight to bed without her story. Then she refused to let me clean her teeth and was getting more and more worked up and started shouting and screaming at me. I tried to just put her in her room to calm down but it just made her worse than before, she was screaming at the top of her lungs and going red in the face. I went to get her and she was kicking and hitting me while screaming and I didn't know what to do so I just sat with her to try and calm her down but nothing seemed to work.
It was only when I said 'what will the people upstairs think of you making all this noise?' (We live in a flat) that she finally calmed down. I then spoke to her in a very calm way about why we don't hit or kick or shout and scream. We were both upset and stressed by this point. She was then very cuddly and loving towards me and we read a book as normal and she went to bed as normal, but totally worn out from all the screaming and crying. It has worn us both out!

She has just gone from a childminders to a nursery and I have also just introduced her to my first partner since me and her dad spilt up, so lots of changes going on.

I guess my question is how to prevent it from getting that far, she was totally uncontrollable and she is very strong for her age... it's a bit scary as her dad was verbally abusive towards me (he shouted a lot) and I worry she has picked up some of his traits. She was hitting and kicking me with full force. She shouted till she was red in the face and shaking. How can I stop this from happening again? I've never shouted at her like that, I talk firmly to her, but never shout. I think I've only raised my voice at her once or twice ever so it's not me she's getting it from. I feel her behaviour has been getting steadily worse over the past couple of weeks, which coincides with her starting the new nursery :(

Any help hugely appreciated. I really don't want that to happen again.

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ragged · 18/03/2015 21:19

You are a saint if you truly managed as well as you described.
She's 3yo, they have wild tempers.
Big glass of Wine & tomorrow is another day.

ColdCottage · 18/03/2015 21:20

I don't really know but have always found from childhood if in in a state people telling me to stop and being cross made it so much worse. If you can hold her in a hug (hard I'm sure) and try and comfort her it might help. A duvet to wrap round her will help you hold her and keep legs in/ buffered when kicking out. Good luck.

306235388 · 18/03/2015 21:37

Ds never did this. Dd did. It hasn't seemed to be indicative of any personality flaw or underlying sadness. Dd is actually a calmer child now than Ds.

If dd was upset I'd usually sit in her room if possible and occasionally say do you want a cuddle? Otherwise I'd ignore all but physical danger to her or me!

Once she stopped I have cuddles until she pulled away and then told her how she could've dealt with it.

OhWhatAPalaver · 18/03/2015 22:58

I'm a big believer in not shouting... probably due to having been shouted at a lot... but no saint. I'm sure I reactef in the wrong way by putting her in her bedroom on her own. I just don't know what to do instead... sometimes talking to her just doesn't work and she ignores me or answers back.

The duvet thing and cuddles sounds like a good idea though... maybe any kind of distraction would help!

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YouAreMyRain · 18/03/2015 23:09

Just be there for her. While she is in that state her amygdala is in control (the primitive part of the brain) and she is not capable of rational thought. Any discussion or introduction of consequences will have no effect until she calms down. Be present with her but be mindful of your own emotions. Be as calm as you can, deep breathing etc.

Underneath her rage and anger, there is fear. If you see it as fear it may be easier for you to deal with it without it triggering thoughts of your ex.

Oh and this is perfectly normal for many 3yr olds.

Eva50 · 19/03/2015 14:29

With ds's 1&3 I found the best thing was to leave them to it. I would let them know that I was going into my bedroom/the living room and tell them to come for a cuddle when they were ready. They usually calmed down much quicker than if I tried to help them.

OhWhatAPalaver · 20/03/2015 07:48

Eve - That's what I usually do when she has a nirmal hissy fit, unfortunately when she had thid meltdown it just made things worse.

Last night it manifested itself in the form of a night terror, which she has had before but not as bad as these proper meltdown type things :( they get worse during times of change so I'm hoping that once she's used to her nursery she'll settle down.

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Eva50 · 20/03/2015 13:06

Yes, mine didn't like any change and found disappointment really hard to take. They were also worse when tired or hungry. Ds1 has ADHD which I thought was to blame until I had ds3 who doesn't, but had the same amazing meltdowns. Fortunately they have outgrown them!

Goldmandra · 20/03/2015 15:06

This was a result of her experiencing overwhelming emotions. It's normal for children to have them at this age and it wasn't a result of you doing anything wrong.

You can't always stop children getting into this state and you certainly shouldn't ever try to avoid a tantrum by changing your mind or not doing things they don't like but are necessary.

What you can do is teach her that you will stay calm and in control when she gets into this state and that it won't affect any of the decisions you make. You can also debrief her afterwards, talking her through the emotions she might have experienced and how she could have responded to them differently. These strategies should help her learn to manage her emotions better as she matures and reduce the number of tantrums you have to deal with.

Instead of viewing this as something you did wrong, think of it as a learning process for her that you handled in a good way and didn't prolong or teach her that it's a good idea to repeat it.

OhWhatAPalaver · 23/03/2015 22:59

Thank you Goldmandra, that makes so much sense! She has been a bit better this week but I have been trying the distraction technique lots and it seems to be helping. Trying to ignore the hitting etc and just change the subject and divert her attention as quickly as possible....
She is clearly struggling a bit with nursery, she almost burst into tears today when I came to pick her up :( really hope she gets used to it soon.

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Singleandproud · 23/03/2015 23:09

We used to blow imaginary bubbles and 'pop' them with our finger. Dd would end up in hysterics and tantrum would be over. Blow them by yourself first with some over exaggerated popping noises and silly faces, she'll soon be too distracted and come and see what silly mummy is up to. This way you get to give her attention but not the tantrum then cuddles and a chat afterwards.

Alternatively you can thrown yourself on the floor in your best toddler tantrum she'll be soo shocked that she'll stop.

OhWhatAPalaver · 25/03/2015 16:47

Haha! That's not a bad idea, will have to give it a go :)

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flowerfairy · 27/03/2015 19:38

This has made good reading for me tonight after a tiring week, DD aged 4 had a major meltdown tonight after tea. Has left me and dh feeling stressed and exhausted. We don't get many now, but there are some good tips here. thanks

Flowergirlmum · 27/03/2015 19:47

I once videoed my daughter mid tantrum and showed it to her. She ended up laughing at herself and we all moved on!

MoreBeta · 27/03/2015 19:50

It happens sometimes.

You did extremely well. Kept control and DD went to bed happy. We have all been there and often times didn't handle it so well.

DS2 had melt downs even age 9 - he used to pretend to faint, be silent, apparently lifeless and unresponding for an hour which of course was extremely frightening.

My cousin used to smash his head repeatedly into a concrete floor which of course was also extremely frightening to his mother.

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