terrible two...........what to do? Who is still having a nap

[sasa15]

ds 2.2 refuse having nap in the afternoon....
today went down after big tantrum....at 4.pm
only for an hour....

He use to sleep 2pm to 4pm....now he's very stubborn......doesn't matter what time he is awake
in the morning.....7...8am....8.30...

the same in the evening he does go down every night at 22.30....

He wants to read all the books....first....

what to do....how to change routine....

stickers....naughty step.,....I haven't try...
but he will just scream and scream....

having a lot of tantrums....what to do....

slap his bums few times...and scream back,,,,

be calm doesn't work....

who is dealing with terrbile two...and how long does it last??????

He must be tired if he's up at 7am-ish and doesn't go to bed until 10pm-ish. It might be why he's having lots of tantrums - he's not getting enough sleep. Could you try putting him to bed earlier? Doesn't help with the afternoon nap thing, but might make him less tired overall and slightly less tantrum-y.

Ds2 is 2.6 and still having an afternoon nap, but not sure for how long. He's up at 7am, bed for 7pm and has about 1.5 hours in the afternoon - and he's still tired at tea time!

When ds1 was dropping his afternoon nap we'd let him take books up to bed - so it was a quiet time and then a bit of a nap - that worked for quite a while but I think he'd dropped his afternoon nap by about 2.9.

Good luck and like I said, I'd start by trying to get him to bed a bit earlier - you could try taking him up 15 minutes earlier each night.

You have my sympathy. my ds 2.1 has also started dropping off his afternoon nap, and then really whingey at teatime (which is a whole other story!!!)
After going through this already with my dd can only say "its a phase" and really does get better.
I must say though am using naughty step when he has a tantrum, more as a time out really to calm himself down.
The only other thing is to be consistent, which can be a nightmare when your tired but they are really just testing you out!!!
Good luck x

is it worthy insist in having nap...#
would it wokr in the long term???

I think is good for baby having a nap in the afternoon....

he's still up screaming that he wants to get down

from his cot....

I go in sometimes dry his sweat give a bit of water
clean his nose and get out of his room...

he has been crying for the last hour...

he ' s stubborn ....want to get down!!!!!

he's in a state.........should I insist???

don't want him to win......

what about control crying????

I think the age they drop the afternoon nap varies - ds gave up at 2yrs4 months-ish ... but we still do quiet time - either books on bed or a bit of TV. I gave up when I was puttin him up there & he'd still be there an hour later. Don't think you can MAKE them sleep if they're not sleepy. Could you do quiet time instead - would he read books in bed on his own?

Agree with someone earlier who wondered if lack of sleep may be making behaviour/tantrums worse - ds is 2ys7 now, and whilst he doesn't need a nap, he does need to be in bed BY 7pm at the latest - and often isn't up til 7:30am - he started havving lots more nighttime sleep once he dropped his nap (vvv good thing!!) COuld you try bringing bedtime 15/30 mins earlier each night for a few days & see if it helps??

hows it going sasa,any quieter?

Mine is just 2 and tantrums usually stem from tiredness. He has a nap about 1 for an hour to and hour and a half and if he doesn't have it he's a nightmare. He does have his days where he refuses to have it but other than that its not usually that bad. I would advise an earlier bedtime with strict bedtime routine, i.e bath, warm milk, teeth clean, story and then bed. You could try the supernanny thing where if he gets up you go in, tell him its time for bed and put him in bed. Then the next time, you just say bed and out him in and then every time after that you just put him back in bed and say nothing. It is hard but you have to stick with it and you then see some results. I know several people who have done that and the controlled crying and the first week or so is diffiocult but then it got easier. You;ve got to think longterm.

he's sleeping now....
but the usual time after a lot of crying....
it's 11.00pm now here...I'm not in England....

I did try to put him down at 9.30pm......

took me 1 and half hour.....

I didn't take him out of his cot.....

at the end....DH WALK IN sit in his room for 5 minutes...out some baby music on....and he gave up crying....

glad hes gone to sleep!exhausting. ive cut my ds sleep down in theday and then had him whinging all afternoon and collapsing at 7oc which is good but sometimes id rather have him happy all afternoon and go to bed at 9. very hard till they get to school i think then theyre worn out and sleep through mostly

We play our lo soothing music as he goes off to sleep which I know a lot of people say is bad but (and this sounds really silly!!!) he's responded to soothing music since he was in the womb so its just one of those things thats always worked!!!

You say he's in a cot - is it possible he's outgrown it and no longer comfortable and it might be time to switch to a trainer bed? We noticed a massive difference in our lo;s sleep when we did that.

ds goes to nursery every morning from 9.00 to 1.00pm
he use to come back tired and ready to have a nap..

now when he come back he wants just play...with mamy

Today only had an hour nap...and still went down at 22.30

will he sleep through now ? praps wake him early,give him lunch after nursery and take him to the park to really wear him out.he wont be grumpy in a park, or in the garden digging holes. my ds can be having a right tired tantrum and as soon as i mention going inthe garden he snaps out of it,unbelievable!

he has lunch at nursery,,,,,do you think will help taking him out at 1.00 pm...I mean me and dh have lunch at 1.00pm so I could take him out at 2.00pm...
fon an hour.......do you mean having a nap after or put him down early ....???
he has dinner about 7ish...could put him down at 8.30....pm???

I think he sleeps through....once he's asleep ....he never wakes up at night....

he will awake around 8.00am....sometimes .......9.am

id try not letting him have a sleep, hopefully freshair will keep him awake. bit of a pain, especially if weather bad and you dont feel like going out but be worth it if it wears him out and keeps him awake.

teatime seems a bit late,i feed my boys about 5 and bath 2year old at 6 and have been lucky last 3 nights that hes fell asleep before 7 and slept through! i know it wont last, im on a good spell with him at the moment

oh and definitely wake him early !dont leave him till 9am.try an hour earlier and cut back to 7ish if you can eventually, expect when you need a lie in of course. you can only but try eh

ok 7up....I will see how can change his routine....

But in the evening is it ok to let him cry whenever
I decide it's tired enough to go down?

I mean shall I stick with the control crying school.....?

the combination of cc and going to bed more tired shold be working....don't you think?

We've had problems settling my ds, but found the following worked:
-moving to 'big boy's bed'
-supernanny tactic as per earlier posting. Took surprisingly short time to work, despite ds being extremely strong-willed
-dropping any daytime nap

Would also suggest you check what you're giving for tea. Definitely notice that settling is harder work if ds has had too much sugary stuff for tea. Have also heard that fruit juice can have a similar effect.

morning sasa, well my ds was fidgety from4.30am where he fell asleep at 6.45pm!!

today im going to let him have a sleep at lunch for hour or longer and put him bed later, hopefully about 8oc so he not up so early.

its such hard work isnt it!

My ds decided to drop his nap the day after his second birthday and we had two months of hell! Tantrums due to tiredness, wanting to sleep at 5.00pm and then not wanting to go to bed in the evening and just general bad behaviour which was all down to him still needing a nap.

In the last couple of weeks we have turned a corner as his body seems to have adjusted to not having a nap. We have our little happy boy back, tantrums have subsided and things have got a lot easier. He tends to wake up about 7.30ish and then goes down to sleep about 7.00-7.30 in the evening and sleeps right through.

hi mums.......ds woke up at 8.00am this morning
he always sleep through the night...

He had 2 hours nap this afternoon...he seems happier for that.....from 2.30 pm to 4.20pm

he never has sugar for tea....he only drinks water....Dinner is at 7.ish...I'm in another country where is difficolt to keep english routine....

I do prefer him to have a nap in the afternoon...

Ideally will go down at 9.30....but will see...

We are planning to buy big bed next week.........this week dh is busy working late hours..........
I read 3 books before nap....put him down...he wasn't happy and I said I will just read another one....and then he was happy went to sleep...

I was at home today so i didn't send him to nursery,,,( he usually goes saturday too)
and he was well behave for that.
I'm at work now...(evening shift)

hi sasa i let my ds sleep from 11.l5am to 1.30pm today!hes got a cold and teething but still hoping he'll go to bed about 8 so i can watch xfactor in peace! good luck for later