more sleep help needed

[korky]

DD is seven months old and generally goes to bed around 6.30-6.45. She never sleeps beyond 6am (and still wakes up during the night most nights, though usually goes back to sleep after a cuddle). I feel she might sleep a bit later in the morning if I could just get her to stay up slightly later in the evenings - say till 7pm. But she can barely stay awake till 6.15-6.30pm for her last bottle as it is! Any suggestions?

Wake her again at 9 and try to keep her awake. Mine used to stay up till about 11 and sleep right round - people thought I was mad but I preferred to have time in the morning to get on and do jobs before they woke.
By the age of 5 they were in a routine of sleeping 7 till 7 so it didn't turn them into 'night owls'

Whats the sleep pattern in the day? DD is 4 months and still having an afternoon nap to get to 7pm.

the only 'advice' i have is stick it.
ds1 has slept thru from 12m. nothing seemed to work so i thought it just has to get better and it did.

Does she have a day time nap - DS is 15mths & has 2hrs (1-3) - there's no way he could last otherwise. He then goes to bed about 6.45 & sleeps til 7.30-8

She has two daytime naps - 30-40 minutes starting 8.45-9.15, and 30-60 minutes starting around 12.30-1pm. She used to have another 30 minutes around 3.30-3.45 but doesn't do that any more. I also can't get her to sleep any longer than 60 minutes at any time during the day. We've only recently stopped waking her at 10.30-11pm for a feed, but she's never hungry when she wakes during the night and she's far from ravenous even at 6am

Does she still seem tired after these naps? At 7 mths my DS was having 3 naps -- one aournd 9:15 (for 2 hrs) one at about 1:30 (for 1.5 hrs) and a short one at 5ish for about 30 min. My DD had about the same, but slightly less as she wasn't as good at settling themselves. They then went to bed around 7:00 - 7:30, and actually only sleep 10 - 11.5 hrs at night (they don't seem to need as much sleep as some others)

As she is waking around the 30 -40 min mark, she may just be waking up when she goes into light sleep. Babies sleep cycles are about 45 - 60 min, so are easily woken every hour. You could try and see if she will settle down for more sleep?

Hi

How much is her total daytime napping ??

He really should not sleep more than 3 hours and then i hope that would take him to at least 6:30 --- 12hrs after he went down

You could also just try nudging the timings by a few minutes every day if possible....say 5 minutes every 3 days... to see if that works

Hope it helps - my DS was waking at 6ish every day - i cut his daily sleep to about 3 hrs and then popped a dummy in in the mornings which put him back to sleep (for about a week - he was 3 months) - i think he couldn't bebothered to wake for it after a while and is not interested in it long term...andnow he 7-7 for ver a 6 weeks and is 5 months....

hope something works..

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FT

Both DS's had morning naps and lunchtime naps at your DD's age.
What naps does she have?

DS2 used to wake at 8am and go back down for a nap at about 11am for 1.5 hours. He would then nap again around 2pm for another hour or so.

He is 19mths old now and just has a lunchtime nap which can be 2-3 hours!

At your DD's age my boys could only stay awake for about 3-4 hours at a time and then they would be pining for their cot. Every child is different and you just have to follow your instinct and do what you think your child needs.

If you can get her to sleep for 2 hours around lunchtime she should settle then at 7 for the night.

Just rememeber that these routines take time to settle in. Sometimes they just fall into place. Good Luck

Alas, she simply won't stay asleep for longer than an hour at lunchtime - once she did 90 minutes and I thought I'd been transported to paradise, but it was just a one-off. I'm going to try getting her to take a third nap at 5pm today, just for 30 minutes or so, and then see if she will stay up till 7pm for her last feed. Trying to get her to go a bit later was a disaster yesterday - she got so knackered she just screamed for about 15 minutes and then didn't feed well, which probably explains why she was awake at 2.30...

Try for the third nap. You may find when she can do without the 3rd nap the lunch one will get longer. Lunch was DS shortest nap until he dropped the late one. TBH 6am isn't too bad. As she is sleeping 12 hrs. DS used to wake at 5 - 5:30 -- fortunatley he grew out of that phase

i agree with USAUK. Try another nap in the afternoon. I'd try 4.30-5pm. If LO won't go to sleep by self then try taking out in the pram. My dd gets really tired 4pm and sometimes sleeps -4.30 or 4.30-5pm then can more happily stay up till 7. Hopefully that might shift hte clock round slightly. dd sometimes woke at 6.30 despite going to bed later but at least wasn't a crosspatch all evening!