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4 year old becoming increasingly sad and rude.... advice please..

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AudreyED83 · 30/09/2014 08:02

Hi mums, I’m new here but really needing some advice or at least some outside eyes….
I am wondering if my 4 year old is suffering from some form of anxiety or depression, particularly obvious in his response to other people - meaning other than my husband, myself and his younger brother, 18m. With just us he is chatty, overly confident, though is certainly not afraid of pushing the boundaries and throwing the occasional tantrum. But he is also well mannered and thoughtful. The problem lies when we are around other people, generally extended family. He is grouchy, rude, does not want to speak to them, ignores them and is basically unpleasant. He spends the time either avoiding interaction or looking for ways to misbehave to get a reaction. When I have tried to ask him why he does this, he says he is shy. Funny thing is, at Reception he actually is incredibly shy, and while fine with a small group of friends he will not speak to the teacher (but not rudely, purely bashful and tongue tied) or in front of the large group unless he is really made to. There are days where he doesn’t make a peep.

We did have a big life change earlier this year, with our family relocating across the country. My son left my parents, uncle and cousin of similar age who were part of his weekly life, who he loved spending time with. We then moved in with my inlaws for 6 months while we found our footing in our new place and, while nice enough people, have no patience for young children and quite often ignore my son when he speaks to them. My son was under very strict house rules (after having free reign of the house and garden at our old place) and was constantly having orders barked at him. My sister who also lives nearby is always happy to see them but grows obviously bored with the interaction quickly. When we first arrived this was a big shock for him and I cant help but wonder how much this has affected him. The rudeness started out just directed to my inlaws, but it now seems to be continuing to all extended family and often just general visitors.

I suppose I am just after some advice! It worries me that he is not as carefree and happy as most kids his age. I feel as though we are letting him down! Is he spiteful that the life he loved changed? Has he lost all respect for adults from the way my inlaws treated him? Is it just the shyness? Or is he just being a rude four year old. He used to be so happy to socialize with family and was always well mannered... not sure where things have gone wrong exactly but I just want him to be happy. And as the icing on the cake people are left thinking and, I'm sure, talking about what a naughty and rude little boy he is when we know that deep down he is not at all..

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Iggly · 30/09/2014 09:50

He's had a lot of change. I'm sure he's fine, just tired and probably getting his head around things. Go easy on him,lower your expectations a bit.

Maybe have a chat with him?

capecath · 30/09/2014 13:20

Hmm sounds like there has been a lot of change in his life and perhaps he is just adjusting to this change. I don't think strictness from your in-laws will be throwing him completely, making him distrust adults altogether, probably more reacting to diff way of doing things... I don't think 4-year-olds are that complex. It may affect the way he treats your ILs but don't think it would apply to all adults. Our 4-year-old DS sounds like yours - chatty, social, confident, quite dramatic and emotional, and pushes boundaries. I have noticed now that he is getting older he is also getting smarter with it and hasn't recently started a little talking back... He tends to do negative attention seeking at times too, most notably when I am trying to talk to other adults. It does help having 2-year-old DS around who he plays with really well. Perhaps it is an attention seeking thing - he sees now his negative behaviour is getting your attention so he is going with it?? Is he at nursery? If so, what is his behaviour like there?

capecath · 30/09/2014 13:25

Please don't feel guilty for putting him through this change! You obviously have good reasons for needing to move and have your family's interests at heart. Take him to places where he can meet other kids his own age, perhaps some classes and do things for him. Perhaps that will help him to settle into the area? tbh it may even just be an age-and-stage thing which happens to coincide... I am hoping that once we hit the magic 5 (or 6!!) the whining will eventually stop and just maybe he will start listening on first request... well at least sometimes.....

minkah · 30/09/2014 13:29

Aw. Just give him loads of love and he'll restabilise. You care so much and you know the real him. Don't worry, he's releasing a bit of stress. If you make his life as stress free as possible now, he'll rest up and regroup and go forward just fine.

When he's rude, can you remove him from the scenario? Put him with a colouring book or something? Take it that the rudeness is a message to you of "I'm not enjoying this, help!"

capecath · 30/09/2014 13:38

Just thinking, it is not necessarily the other adults he is reacting to, rather that he is not getting your attention when there are other adults around, if that makes sense.

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