Advice on formula feed please???

[TearingMyHairOut]

We have had an extremely sicky baby/ colicky baby since birth, now 11wks. We tried everything from osteopathy to gaviscon etc etc. Recently we tried a product called colief which actually breaks down the lactose enzymes that stomachs can have trouble digesting. We noticed quite a significant improvement in his feeding and pains although not a cure. Surely if this suggests he has trouble breaking down those enzymes himself, he has some kind of mild intolerance and would he benefit from soya formula. I have read quite a few threads on negatives sides of soya formule, any advice would be gratefully received?

hiya, I tried the same as you, I found soya milk was worse for my little one and he brought up tons, I guess each baby is different though. Have you tried Sma staydown, you can order it through boots? only found the reflux significantly imporoved when on solids tho and when his tummy matured when he started crawling/sitting. good luck. x

The reason that spya milk is now not recommended is that about 40% of children allergic to cow's milk are also allergic to soya (and because tere is some soya almost everywhere in our food, dieticians prefer to avoid to develop an allergy to it).
You could try a formula made with goat milk - but you can not guarantee that he will react to that too or an hypoallergenic formula like NAN HA . It is available at the chemist but you need to order it. The milk is partially hydrolized so better tolerated by babies - normally for babies who are at risk of developping an allergy but for the ones who have a recognized allergy to milk. However, ds2 did react to normal formula but not that one.
If this improve his colic, I would seek advice from yur GP and explain what you have done. Yo should be referred to a dietician at least to get som advice for the weaning stage.
Hope this help!

TMHO, My ds who is nearly 5 weeks has reflux. It was diagnosed luckily at 2 weeks. My HV suggested a new formula called Enfamil as he was taking SMA Gold and couldn't keep it down and wasn't ganing weight.
The Enfamil is on prescription which is a bit o a pain because the milk has to be ordered. Although its not stopped his vomiting totally it has reduced. There are times when you can see he is in pain and although he is hungry and wants to feed, when the bottle goes into his mouth he really struggles and my HV said this is due to the stomach acid coming back up and causing the discomfort.

We've also discussed Gaviscon but the more reading up on it I do, the more I find that Gaviscon doesnt seem to help many babies. I've also heard of the SMA staydown but again heard its not all that great.
Enfamil is quite thick hence it makes it harder for it to come back up.

TearingMyHairOut. When you brought baby home, did they do the heel prick test? They did one on my son and the mw told me they test for lactose intolerence at the same time. If they didn't come back to you with a result it means good news. However, before you make too many changes I would take him to the gp and raise your concerns. They might be able to do another test for you to confirm if it is lactose intolerence. They also tend to grow out of it by around 3 months, it is the time they start digesting milk better and as far as I know Soy based formula is even worse if they have an intolerence. I'll try and find the link about this and I will post it here for you.

HTH

i have only read op as i'm trying to go out (!) but our son was the exactly the same.
babies have trouble breaking it down full stop. it doesnt mean he is intolerant. if he was he would develop hives and throw it all back up, violently. my brother was lactose intolerant.
we used colief with ds1 and as you report it makes a difference. you eventually wean them off as their digestive system matures.
we tried soya formula but found it didnt really make a difference to his colic. ive still got an unopened can of the stuff.
i also used infacol and gripe water.

also add, aptamil was terrible. cow&gate was much better for us.

yes, i agree. go and speak to your gp just to rule out other things.

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It is clear that soya should only be used when recommended by GP!

Hope This Helps.

you can get goats milk?

you can get goats milk?

Thought Goats milk formula had been withdrawn now.

In the UK all babies are screened for phenylketonuria (PKU) and congenital hypothyroidism (CHT). In some areas babies are also screened for cystic fibrosis, sickle cell disorders and some other conditions such as intolerances, but these vary in each area. you will need to check with your hv to find out what your lo would have been tested for.

i don't know but a few years ago my cousin was on this milk goats milk

he did have to take a multivitamin with iron in it though as well.

Just double checked and the official withdrawal has been delayed until March 2007 - Explanation here

ah just found this link

it says goats milk will be withdrawn after 1 march 2007. what about the lactose free milks that sma and enfamil do? they are hydrolysed so there is no lactose in them but are still based on cow's milk.

beat me to it!