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DS(8) refusing to eat when upset - insight needed!

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Lovage · 12/09/2014 19:43

DS has for ages had a pattern where he will refuse to eat if he is upset about something. The 'something' varies but is often our refusal to let him spend time / more time on the computer or the fact that the meal is not what he wanted. We never make a big deal of it when he does this - we say 'that's okay, you don't have to eat but there is no more food until the next meal'. He accepts that and seems to be fine and not feel hungry, even when that means he goes from lunchtime to breakfast the next day without eating (although he does eat an enormous breakfast then). Although obviously we aren't keen on this, we genuinely aren't that bothered about it in nutritional terms and it only used to be every couple of months or so. But more recently he's been doing it a lot more - like about 3 times in the last 5 days and I'm getting anxious about what it's about.

He's a bit of a fussy eater and would much prefer to eat the same three meals over-and-over again so we do have some emotional situations around meals sometimes. But he's not that bad and is definitely improving under an excellent new system we've been doing. Mealtimes are mostly pleasant occasions and we've never pressured them to eat, or even done 'you must eat up your first course before you can have pudding'.

I think I'm worried that he is turning his unhappiness (?anger at us) inwards and that this is the kind of behaviour that might later turn into self-harm or depression. He's a pretty 'good' child and incredibly rarely shouts or looses his temper. He has an amazing capacity for concentration, which includes holding grudges for hours on end. He's definitely not a venter and I think I'm worried that his (inevitable) bad feelings have nowhere to go but inwards. We do encourage him to talk when he's upset but he won't and afterwards is not much better.

Suggestions, insight, ideas very welcome.

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Ultracrepidarian · 12/09/2014 19:53

Sounds like my ds whose 4 so much younger, he started this after a very bad stomach bug so I've always linked his with a sort of food phobia. Plus using it as a method of control, again different but we've been told that he likely has high functioning autism. Today he has eaten a small cup of sultanas, half an apple, one slice of bread, a nibble of cheese, 4 fish fingers and a hand full of brambles whilst walking too and from school.

I'm worried about ds as we walk loads so I feel he burns more calories then he takes in, I don't drive. I know my calorie intake is impacted by all the walking. I have no idea how to help but I can sympathise.

I've tried reward charts and giving tiny portions of food I know he likes and saying please finish and you can have pudding which worked for a bit but no longer does. I think part of ds is when dh goes to work I think it's him trying to regain control over his environment.

I will be watching with interest. I hope you get some good ideas as I know how worrying and upsetting it is.

CampCrystal · 12/09/2014 19:55

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ElephantsNeverForgive · 12/09/2014 20:03

At that age DD2 (also a right fuss pot) found food very boring and eating a chore. Only as teen does she finally eat a decent amount.

She's a bit of a control freak and very stubborn. Fortunately she never linked not eatting to being in a grump about something, but that's, probably because I have more sense than to impose visible time limits on screens and TV.

I jolly people out into the garden or to do something else, but we have no arbitory rules.

Lovage · 12/09/2014 20:11

Thanks both. I'm not really worried about it as an eating behaviour - I think he gets enough food and he's developing fine (although he is quite skinny). It's more that that capacity to ignore hunger seems worrying to me (but maybe I'm weird in my need to eat regularly?!). And I'm worried that he's going to develop a habitual way of dealing with negative feelings (which are inevitable for everyone) which is going to be very harmful to him in the long run.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'worked in the past' CampCrystal. I don't think it has worked in the past - we've never given in to whatever it is he wants when he refuses to eat, we just say 'skip the meal'. I don't think it is a battle of wills around food (although obviously it is a battle of wills about computer use or whatever). Could you explain more, please?

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ouryve · 12/09/2014 20:25

DS1 (who has ASD and ADHD) loses his appetite when anxious or upset. We leave his meal on the worktop, in the kitchen and don't make a big deal of it. Sometimes he'll nibble a bit of it, when everyone's finished eating. Sometimes he'll chuck it away. Sometimes he'll grab a soya yoghurt out of the fridge (which often stimulates his appetite), when he's calmed down, or make himself a slice of toast (he's 10).

I'm wondering if your DS is struggling with being back at school. Is his new teacher a shouter, for example, or has his class been juggled around so he has to make new friends? As he internalises his anxiety, he might completely fly under the radar if there are any problems there, because he's probably the quiet boy who doesn't attract anyone's attention.

We have a curfew and timer set for DS1's computer usage. He'll resolutely refuse to save things when he gets the 2 minute warning, but he won't argue when it kicks him out of his account after his hour's up!

ElephantsNeverForgive · 12/09/2014 20:25

I have to say I'm incredibly glad, that DD2 seems to have lost the ability to live on 'fresh air' just as she reached the kind of age when girls start worrying about their weight. She is stubborn enough to get in a proper mess.

Fortunately, she trampolines and does gymnastics and you can't do the amount of practice she does and have teen growth spurts on the odd yoghurt.

CampCrystal · 12/09/2014 20:26

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LatteLoverLovesLattes · 12/09/2014 20:31

I would leave him to it to be honest. A lot of people don't feel like eating when they are angry or upset and I think a lot of us adult have eating issues down to being made to eat when we weren't hungry or to finish our dinner etc. He doesn't seem to be doing it to 'get his own way' as you haven't ever given in to it iyswim. I don't think he's turning his anger inwards, he's just angry/upset and doesn't want to eat... I think you are worrying about nothing tbh

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