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Is this shyness or something more?

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PourquoiTuGachesTaVie · 11/08/2014 17:55

Ds seems to have a problem with anything that may draw attention to himself in certain situations, mainly;

Being asked to say hello, bye, sorry, please or thank you. This is worse with strangers but he also hates doing it with family members. He will say all these things to me and dh so I know he can. Asking him to say these things when out and about can result in a tantrum and/or crying while he hides behind me. Can be awkward when the nice person in a shop says something nice to him etc.

Being asked to join in e.g. Singing or dancing - nothing can encourage him to do it in a group and I have to sing with him if we do it at home - no solos allowed. He even screamed and cried when we sang happy birthday to him.

Refusing to/an inability to say things in a scripted manner - for example we were playing a game like "what's the time Mr Wolf?" But it took him two days before he worked up the courage to actually say "what's the time Mr Wolf?" And even then it was whispered, to me, when we were alone.

I've previously spoken to his class teachers about my concerns but they weren't worried and said he has started to come out of his shell at school. I suppose what has prompted me asking this time is that we went to a children's entertainer today and he hated it. I knew he wouldn't want to participate but thought he might enjoy watching - how wrong I was! He hated the singing and dancing, even when I said he didn't have to he still didn't like the other children doing it. He wanted to be given sweets and balloons like the other children who joined in, he wouldn't join in at all - even if all that was asked is that they sit with legs and arms crossed.

So really I'm just wondering if this is normal shyness? He is 4 now and has always been like this. I was the world's least shy child and would talk to anyone about anything at the same age so I have nothing to compare it too!

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PourquoiTuGachesTaVie · 11/08/2014 17:56

Gah! Compare it to not too! Pet hate of mine and autocorrect foiled me!

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cantmakecarrotcake · 11/08/2014 18:19

My dd is like this and I seem to think I was as a kid too.

My only suggestion is not to force things and to gently expose them to things (like the entertainer) from a safe distance when you can. The concept will get less scary with time.

If I try to recall the feelings I had it's like being asked to perform. I used to feel v self conscious and embarassed. DD seems almost to get worse with too much encouragement so don't draw too much attention to anything.

Having said that I get hugely frustrated when she won't join in at music or gymnastics but at the end of the day she absorbs more than she appears to so I'm convinced there's some benefit in persevering.

So yes I think it's a shyness/self consciousness and nothing more. I feel your worry though...

Diryan · 11/08/2014 18:20

No advice I'm afraid, but my DD who's almost 3 is exactly the same. It's her birthday next month & am dreading that moment after friends/family give her gifts & she'll not say thankyou & will just stand there mute with shyness. At home she is so chatty, but is just incapable of saying hello/bye/thankyou etc, even to close friends. I hate it, but try my best not to make an issue out of it.

PourquoiTuGachesTaVie · 11/08/2014 18:33

Relieved to know there are others out there - I got a bit worried because while watching the entertainer every other child and toddler was loving it while ds sat on my knee at the back (occasionally in tears because it was all a bit too much).

It's hard not to make a big deal out of it especially as he gets older because I find myself apologising and feeling like I need to explain that he's just a bit shy when he blanks someone or worse starts crying or gets grumpy when they speak to him. I feel like by doing that I'm making it a big deal but then I feel it would be rude to not explain! It's difficult. Blush

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cantmakecarrotcake · 11/08/2014 19:58

I think people understand that little kids can be shy of talking to people they don't know that well. I just follow 'say hello to...' with 'oh well, not today' and move on.

Some things are surprisingly daunting for little people. DD hated the theatre, a puppet show, a dressed up Octonaut, the Easter bunny, the circus, the list goes on...

She's better with puppets now after a lovely gentle puppey show at a birthday party. But we won't be booking a panto this Christmas!

Iggly · 11/08/2014 20:36

Don't call him shy in front of other people. He will start to be that label. Just give him a chance to speak and if he doesn't then don't apologise just carry on the conversation.

PourquoiTuGachesTaVie · 11/08/2014 20:40

Thank you Iggly I had a feeling that was a better approach but I wasn't sure. Smile I don't want to make him even more self conscious or feel stressed by it all.

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efeslight · 13/08/2014 12:53

my little boy is nearly 5 and is similar - the puppet show was terrifying, he burst into wracking tears at the magician in feb -
I just try to validate his fears/anxieties a little bit, oh, did that upset you? yes, it was a bit scary, wasn't it? etc, etc, but at the same time we stay till the end of the activity and we work through the experience together, eg he sits on my knee for a while then sits at the floor by my feet. I tell him, well, you'll get used to it, now you know what its like, you'll enjoy it next time.
The same with talking to adults, if he doesn't want to, then I don't apologise for him or make it into a big deal, and I don't say that he's shy. But I do make a point to him of saying, well, you can talk to them more next time - it seems to be working, he is coming out if his shell a little bit. good luck

Tournesol · 13/08/2014 13:05

A friend of mine has a daughter who is shy or sometimes just doesn't like to talk so she has come up with what I think is a good way round it.

She has taught her daughter to do some hand signals, so if someone asks her if she is ok, or in a situation where she should say thank you but doesn't feel like talking she gives a thumbs up sign instead and inseatd of saying hello or goodbye she waves.

It seems to really work and makes her feel a bit more in control. Might be worth a try?

tigerlily83 · 13/08/2014 16:19

I am ready to become incredibly unpopular for what I am about to write...

If your gut feeling is telling you that this might not just be shyness, have you considered any form of professional help? At 6 years old he will expected to go to school and form bonds with friends, ultimately if he won't be able to cope with social interactions he won't have the same experiences other children have and might even suffer as a result of his inability to communicate.

Im just saying there is nothing wrong with asking for a bit of help from a behavioural specialist, whats the worst that could possibly happen?

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