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Responding to Name - What Does it Mean?

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kkan · 23/06/2014 18:50

Hello,

I have posted on this forum but under different topics, but I will provide a little bit of background on my son Joseph. He is now 23 months old, very happy, affectionate, and a problem solver. He had zero words when he was 20-21 months but since has acquired around 10 words, such as animal sounds, alphabet recognition, etc., but mama and dada are NOT one of them. He has advanced quite a bit on his receptive language as well. I can list about 20 words/phrases he can understand and acts accordingly; he probably had about 2-3 in this area when he was 21 months.

At 21 months his response to his name was 'bad', meaning he would rarely respond to his name, however, at 23 months his response has changed from 'bad' (responded about 20% of the time) to 'mediocre' (responds about 40% of the time). But I am not sure what responding to name means. For instance, Joseph always runs upstairs when we say "Joseph, I am here, comeon up". He also won't do something if you say "Joseph, noo". I have tried different things such as saying his sister's name followed by the word "no" and he does not respond to that. So, the word "no" has to be associated with his name. Same goes for the words "come here".

On the other hand, at times he will be walking by you in the living room and you can call him all you want and he will just walk by without a reaction. You can also call him 10 times when he is engaged in an activity, or sometimes not, and he won't react at all. At other times you can call him 10 times in a row and he will look towards you every time (sometimes in the eye and sometimes in your direction) clearly responding to his name. Other times you have to call him around 5 times and only then he will turn around and look at you. It is becoming extremely difficult to gauge his response. My wife was quite distraught the other day when we were in the supermarket and she came behind him when he was staring at space and said his name 5-times but to no avail. I touched him and got his attention and then she called his name and he turned around. The big question now is -- what constitutes as 'responding to name'? Does Joseph as described above "respond to his name"? I don't if I should check of that box on any checklists or forms.

Joseph has enrolled in the EIP but that is a slow process so we have a private SLP come in. She has seen him 3 times now and he responds to her every time she calls his name, plays with her and engages in games. The SLP doesn't think he is on the ASD spectrum because she believes autistic kids are not as interactive as my son and besides the language delay he does not show any other red flags. He also plays with a variety of toys and puzzles the right way, highly interactive, affectionate, high levels of concentration, excellent gross & fine motor skills, no repetitive behaviors or attachment to activities, no major tantrums, loves to be held and tickled. However, the responding to name and speech delay is an issue that is bothering my wife and I.

We have asked for a hearing test and apparently there is a 5-6 month wait here in Canada. So it has been two months since we were referred and we are yet to get an appointment. I am not certain it is hearing because like many other parents I have also witnessed Joseph reacting and recognizing his favorite music or reacting to other sounds.

Furthermore, his eye-contact could be better. The SLP and EIP did not find any issues with that but I have found his eye contact to be very good with us but not so much with strangers.

It is puzzling to me at this point. And him not saying mama or dada yet really breaks our hearts. We are confident it is not ASD but at times we start wondering about the possibility. It is very worrisome. It is as though different versions of Joseph show up on different days when it comes to responding to his name -- to a point that I am nervous about going home and finding out which one it is today. I am wondering if anyone has any experiences to share or any thoughts on this. I would appreciate it.

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AndIFeedEmGunpowder · 23/06/2014 22:33

I am not an expert but didn't want your post to go unanswered. Might be worth asking for this to be moved to the special needs board where you will get more first hand responses?

In the meantime...

My daughter is a similar age and talks quite a lot, but it is hit and miss as to whether she responds to her name. I think she knows her name but sometimes chooses not to answer! I think this is within the remit for normal toddler behaviour. I don't think lack of eye contact with strangers is unusual either.

I wouldn't rule out a hearing problem. As far as I am aware, children may be able to recognise some things like music or loud noises but speech may be harder for them to hear because of pitch/complexity of sounds etc.

All sounds very frustrating. I hope you get some more support from the SLP (is that the speech language therapist?) and you can move forward and get some answers. Joseph sounds great and sounds like you are determined to fight his corner. Flowers

KeithTheCat · 23/06/2014 22:47

I would absolutely follow your instinct. you sound very well informed.

all health care professionals dismissed my concerns about my DS until he was almost 3, he is now 3.10 and may officially diagnosed with ASD next week.

keep on fighting, you sound like you know what you're doing Flowers

bialystockandbloom · 23/06/2014 22:47

Hmm, it is a hard one, as there'll be dozens of parents here who have gone through similar experiences - half will have turned out fine, but half won't. From my experience of my ds (who was diagnosed with ASD when he was 3), compared to my dd (who is neurotypical), your son's response to his name does sound a bit patchy for his age. That, along with the limited language, would concern me tbh.

The interaction aspect sounds great, though, which is a good sign. How does he interact with other children?

Some of the rest of what you've said (good motor skills, affectionate, etc) doesn't necessarily preclude any developmental delays or difficulties though - my ds has all of these, but is still on the autistic spectrum. They are all good signs though Smile

All I'd say is, keep pursuing a referral for assessment. Sorry, don't know how it works in Canada, but here in the UK it's normally the route of developmental paediatrician, sometimes in conjunction with Speech & Language therapist. If the system is anything like here, there'll be another wait for this - in the meantime you can keep monitoring, making notes of any behaviour that concerns you, taking videos etc. And then by the time an assessment comes around, your concerns will either have alleviated (in which case, great), or you are already halfway in the system. Nothing to lose either way.

It's great you are pushing things along so early - if there does turn out to be anything that needs further help, it's great that you're halfway there with that.

bialystockandbloom · 23/06/2014 22:49

Oh and meant to say, have they investigated glue ear? Definitely push for this when the hearing test comes up. That can have a big impact on expressive language development.

kkan · 24/06/2014 15:28

Thank you all for your posts. Yesterday, after I posted on this forum I went home not knowing which Joseph would show up. Once again, it was a mixed Joe that showed up at the door. I called his name from about 50 feet and he turned around right away, called his name from about 20 feet and he turned around right away, called him out from 2 feet -- responded around 50% of the time.

Another thing I have noticed about him is that he is a much better visual learner. He will practically learn things the first time around if you show him how to do it but has a difficult time learning things when it has to do with teaching him through words. Associating words with actions helps him but words alone do not help him much.

I will look into glue ear. Thanks for this.

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kkan · 24/06/2014 21:24

This is a response to bialystockandbloom's question. His interaction with other children is patchy as well -- lots of parallel play and watching older children play with joy on occasions. Parallel play is fairly normal for his age (23 months) but he should start to take a bit more interest in other children, which we hope will start soon since four of my nieces and nephews are coming over for summer holidays to stay with us. The ages of my nieces and nephews range from 1 to 12. So, I hope something changes with regards to this.

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bialystockandbloom · 25/06/2014 14:17

It must all be worrying - but you're doing a great thing by getting the ball rolling so early. I hope your concerns are taken seriously, and you don't get fobbed off with "wait and see". Approaching 2yo is definitely not too early for someone with expertise to spot any developmental difficulties, but is a hard age sometimes as all these things could resolve in time.

The interaction and communication with other children (and adults) is important and can be an indicator of difficulties or delays. At this age, the normal behaviour to expect would be a desire to show and share, and play should be showing some imaginative stuff. Though, yes, parallel play is totally normal at this age!

Good luck with it. The Special Needs Children board here is really useful if you need it later on.

Sairamma · 08/10/2022 04:45

@kkan how is your child doing now? An old thread so wanted to ask. Have similar problem

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