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ruty · 14/08/2006 14:30

I don't really know if this is the best place to post, and I tried to post under an anonymous name but it wouldn't let me so now I'll just have to humiliate myself. I am sure there are people who can't stand me here, so I didn't really want to ask for help but i'm just so fed up right now. DH and I moved to the town we live in just before ds was born. He will be two next month. We are so frigging lonely and it is starting to really get to ds. I think I am a pretty easy going person, OK to talk to, I ask interesting questions and don't think I have a second head I don't know about or anything. And ds just adores other children - he goes up to them and is desperate to befriend them - though he often gets ignored. He had a little friend who we used to meet up with once or twice a week, and I got on with her Mum and that was great, but they left to go back to the States a few months ago and ds really felt the loss. We go to mother and baby groups, and we go to the Park. Ds tries to make eye contact with other kids all the time, with varying degrees of success. Only one mother that I have met from these groups has offered me her phone number - I rang her and we get together sometimes but her dd is a bit older than ds and not very interested in him. We have one other friend who has a dd, again a bit older than ds, and she's not very interested in him either. She can be quite horrible to him, push him and snatch things off him, but I know that's just how kids are sometimes and i suppose he'll have to get used to it.
Today, we went to the park, and there was a group of mothers with toddlers having a picnic on a blanket. Ds took my hand and led me up to the group, and wanted to sit down with them. They ignored us completely. In the end i had to pick him up and take him away, and he started to scream and cry. He cries in the park if anybody leaves - he is so desperate to make friends. It breaks my heart and I feel quite lonely myself. We go to a music class, and at the end of last term, two other mums and I planned to have a picnic after the last class - so I turn up with picnic on the last week, and one of the mums is not there, and the other is meeting her husband for lunch in the pub - and we are not invited. She was obviously embarrassed but the picnic was not mentioned, and I was just hurt and baffled.
Please don;t think I think my ds is better than any other child - I don't and god knows he has his moments of tantrums and horrible behaviour. But he does seem to love other children so much, and is desperate for friends. We live in a tiny flat in an area where most people seem to live in huge houses, and there is not really the room to invite people back to ours, even if I had the courage to.
I just don't know how to turn this around, and feel quite angry that no one has ever bothered to try and welcome us into what seems like a clique. Sorry for rant, you probably think I'm a self pitying twat - so be it.

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Littlefish · 14/08/2006 19:29

Twice now, I've accosted mums with pushchairs, walking through the village . One has been a friend now for nearly two years as we met when our dds were only a few weeks old.

It took a bit of a leap of faith, because it's not normally something I'd do!

welshmum · 14/08/2006 19:32

No probs Ruty, hope things improve - let me know how the church shopping goes

DollyP · 14/08/2006 19:34

Oh Ruty you poor love!

I remember this feeling very well at the first playgroup. I offered to swap numbers with a couple of women who looked less than thrilled by the prospect and never called. However, I kept at it (obviously was feeling brave!) and eventually made some mates. They have since confessed that they felt as insecure as me and worried about looking pushy etc if offering numbers.

I think church shopping is a good idea. Hope you meet some jolly people soon. In the meantime, plenty of virtual support and hugs on here .

Take care XXXX

Quannoi · 14/08/2006 19:36

Aw, Ruty! I know just what you mean, some of the cliques in villagey places can be a bit much to take, check this out if you can brave the strong language (I was quite fed up when I wrote it!).

You've tons of great advice on here already but I add my hug to the hunker , and one for your sweet ds too .

DollyP · 14/08/2006 19:36

Should also add that I have since made friends in the park and in the coffee shop. It is very hard to take the plunge and say "shall we go for coffee after children finished on the swings" but it is worth it. XXXX

cleaninglady · 14/08/2006 19:58

Hi - very similar situation to me but im slowly breaking down those barriers although has got easier since around nursery and now about to start reception i can see more opportunities to meet people. someone further down mentioned netmums and ive met loads of people through that site as it has specific local sites that you can post your details on or respond to ones that have already posted so you know they want to get together with you - highly recommended!

VeniVidiVickiQV · 14/08/2006 20:05

Awww ruty you do seem really down.

I found it tough to make friends where i moved to - before having children and even after. I persisted though, adn have made a few friends in my area. I have made quite a few friends on MN too. They don't live tremendously close but its nice to know that they are there iykwim?

I dont think I've ever seen a nasty or horrible post from you. But, in any case, i think most of us will agree that we all hold strong opinions on one subject or another, I dont think we hold it against ourselves in anyway (usually....).

xxx

Overrun · 14/08/2006 20:15

Ruty, it's hard I know. I was in a really tough situation when I moved away from London. I got the sense that every one had already bonded over pregnancy and mother and baby groups. My ds1 was 18 months when we moved and then I had twins, that winter of 2004 was really hard. I barely got out. When I did I felt out of place a lot of the time, and I would try and strike up conversations with other women and they would always drift away to talk to some one they knew.
hard not to get a complex. nearly two years on, it does feel very different and I am comfortable in these groups with some really good friends.
I guess it takes time, but keep at it. I am sure it will come together for you and your ds

ruty · 14/08/2006 20:38

oh wow thank you all you lovely Mnetters for making me feel much better. Lazycow, please let me know if you ever move to Oxford! Abigdon is actually where we were today - it has a lovely park with lots of families, I think the people we saw were, as somebody said, probably just engrosses in each other's company.
Sitting Bull - that really is such a lovely and kind offer. If you didn't mind it might be nice - as long as that doesn't put any pressure on your friends! Let me know what you think.
And thankyou, so much, to all the people who have posted - your support means a lot to me and has really cheered me up.

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Marina · 14/08/2006 20:50

Did you say Abingdon? I know someone there with a lovely little boy of nearly 2. I will CAT you to see if you fancy an intro - they are Christians, but good proper ones IYSWIM . In fact, he is our godson

ruty · 14/08/2006 21:16

thanks Marina! That is lovely of you. I don't mind Christians per se you know.

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ruty · 14/08/2006 21:18

i mean i don't have a problem with christians per se - sheesh i can't even joke properly, my social skills are destroyed.

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Jazzi · 14/08/2006 21:19

Ruty, I live near to you in Wallingford. I moved here 7 years ago, and have found the place very unfriendly. I really wish we could move but dp is from around here, and wants to stay in the area. If ever you wnt to meet up just let me know, we could be lonely together!!

ruty · 14/08/2006 21:22

sorry it is so unfriendly there too Jazzi - if you are ever in Abingdon we could meet up in the park? How old is/are your dc/s?

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Jazzi · 14/08/2006 21:23

We come over to Abingdon quite alot, we go to Snakes and Ladders. I have 2 ds's 3.5 and 19 months.

ruty · 14/08/2006 21:25

i've not braved snakes and ladders yet - sounds quite busy! If you ever want to meet there or in park on a fine day do CAT me.

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Jazzi · 14/08/2006 21:30

Snakes and Ladders is always busy in the holidays, but is alot quieter in term-time. Would love to meet up, if you fancy it??

ruty · 14/08/2006 22:50

will cat you both.

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Blu · 14/08/2006 23:01

hey Ruty - I honestly don't think you should feel self-conscious about any 'words' on MN! I have been debating on the other side from you on some very 'unresolved' threads about religion, and I have never felt anything other than pleased to see you on a thread! You are right, you are a good listener.

Your story about your ds and the group in the park is the sort of thing that brings a lump to your eye and tears to your throat, so i do hope that some friends come your way soon. Don't let lack of confidence get in your way - you have nothing to feel unconfident about.

yawningmonster · 15/08/2006 05:34

Hi Ruty. I am on the other side of the world to you but wanted to touch base anyway. Along time ago you were the only person going through similar issues to us with blood in poohs and multiple allergies (I used to be called Saacsmum) and I often see your name about and think back to those scary days and how reassuring it was to have somebody going through some of the same things. My ds will also be 2 soon and we have been in our place for almost a year. At first it was awful, so isolating and lonely for us both. I do send ds to preschool, he takes all of his own food and preschool is excellent at keeping vigilent with him. This has enabled him to make some friends and for us to have some breaks from each other. I have started to get to know some of the mums there which has widened our circle emmensly also. Anyway not sure if any of this helps but my thoughts are with you and I hope that things start to look a little more positive soon.

poopy · 15/08/2006 05:52

Hi Ruty ..
I have moved around a bit (all my life really, but also since I had children) and the first year in a new place can be really lonely. I remember when i first moved to NZ if it hadn't been for mumsnet I would have gone bonkers.
After about 18 months I found that some of my acquaintances were becoming friends ... and slowly I was building a history with them and then after 2 and a half years I realised that I had real mates ... 2 and a half years seems like a long time but if you think about all your friends from where you lived before, was it instant friendship? All friendships IME take a while to forge ... and when you are making them it seems to take forever.
Of course, now we are settled DH has decided to take a job in Australia so come January I will be back to square one .... grrrrrrrrrrrrr
I think the key is to keep trying. Keep going to the same places where after a while people will recognise your face. Keep a smile on your face and always say, "Hi, how are you?" when you see them ... ask them questions - how old is your little girl? Flatter them - gosh, isn't your little boy good at climbing? People LOVE to talk about their kids and LOVE to be told their child is good at something.
I had to develop a rather thick skin when I moved here and NOT be offended by people ignoring me. I had give myself a mental shrug and move on. And blatantly say at the end of playgroup (can't stand them but in order to meet people it is kind of necessary), "Would you like to meet for coffee sometime? I know a great place that is really toddler friendly .... "

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ruty · 15/08/2006 09:20

not yet sitting bull - very ashamed to say i haven't catted anyone since the charge came in so I paid last night [ashamed because i had been meaning to pay - MN need all the funds they can get] But should be able to cat you today. Thanks for all the advice here, yes, poopy, i do try to ask all the right questions and be flattering about other people's children - but i will persist! And good to know that things are a bit better for you and your ds yawning monster.
Blu, not sure if I am very good listener on MN - but thank you for your kind words - very chuffed.

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Jazzi · 15/08/2006 09:21

Ruty - look forward to meeting you. Jazzi x