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9.5mo full-on rage after meals and overnight (bit long)

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gretagrape · 15/01/2014 09:25

Hi. I'm not sure what's going on with my son at the moment so hoping for a bit of insight:
His sleep pattern has been a bit erratic lately - I posted a recently because he was napping for 4 hours in the day which was really unusual, but now he's gone back to his normal 2x 30 mins (afternoon might be 1hr if I'm lucky). His night sleep is now really disturbed - he goes from deep sleep to screaming at full pelt in an instant 4 or 5 times a night. Generally all I have to do is reposition him and put his comforter over his face and he'll turn over, calm down and go back to sleep, but sometimes I can see within a few seconds that that isn't going to work so I pick him up and he stops instantly. I just hold him and stroke his head for a few mins, then put him back in the cot - cue instant rage again until he calms down and goes back to sleep.
In the last week or so, he's also started having these rages after his afternoon snack - goes absolutely mental complete with tears, snot and dribble and nothing I do calms him down. I can't hold him for more than 5 mins as he struggles so much that it hurts me to try and keep him still (I have tendonitis in both wrists so it's extremely painful to hold him when he's wriggling). After about 10 mins he calms down and is then completely happy and cheerful.
I don't know if this could just be down to teething as it's so sudden and intense? He also has bad eczema at the moment so I don't know if that could be it?
I worry that he may have a problem with his metabolism/recognition of feeling hungry/full and that this might have something to do with it (it's like he gets to the end of the snack and thinks "what, that's it?") - he literally never refuses food and I have had to take control of his portions rather than taking his cues because he has only ever turned his head away twice and that was when he had a cold. His weight is now almost 98th centile and I've been told I'm overfeeding him.
It's hard to describe but it's like he needs everything to be a full meal, even if it's only an hour after a full bottle, but on the other hand if we are running late and food or milk is an hour late he's not remotely bothered by waiting.
Thanks for any help you can give me.

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gretagrape · 15/01/2014 14:37

Guess I'm the only one with a baby starting the terrible two's 15 months early then...

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Jaffakake · 15/01/2014 20:13

My ds started the terrible 2's at about 14 months. We had a number of spectacular tantrums at that age & then he calmed right down to an understandable & manageable level. The first one he ever had was when he realised the snack pot was empty of raisins - it was a full on, lay on the floor, hammering the floor with hands & feet, comedic moment.

We've noticed over the last 2.5 yrs that long sleeping generally coincides with leaps of development. All I can think of is he's learning something new about the world & it's taking a bit of adjusting?

Hopefully it's just a phase & normal service will resume shortly.

JiltedJohnsJulie · 15/01/2014 20:19

I don't think he's angry or tantruming, I think you've hit the 9 month sleep regression.

As for his snack, what do you give him?

Have you felt in his mouth to see if any teeth are coming through? Tomorrow about half an hour before his afternoon snack, try giving him a dose of paracetamol or ibruprofen. If he's calmer, it could just be that he is in pain or extremely uncomfortable.

Do you know why he has eczema? Has he been checked for food allergies?

gretagrape · 16/01/2014 07:48

Thanks for replying. He is constantly on the go and what with the poor sleeping he is completely knackered by the end of the afternoon, so it could also be tiredness that sets him off after his snack.

His afternoon snack is usually something like rice cakes with banana or avocado on with some blueberries or grapes.

He does have two teeth coming through - the first two didn't seem to give him much bother, just made him a bit grumpy and clingy so I sort of assumed it's more of a general nagging pain rather than a sharp pain to make him go bananas in an instant.

Thanks for that tip - I'll try giving him paracetamol before his snack today and see how that goes.

He has got food allergies - dairy, peanut, egg and soya. We keep a food diary and the eczema does fluctuate wildly so it's really difficult to see definite patterns - we think tomato makes it worse, and it's become worse than ever in the last week which has coincided with the introduction of celery, so we'll need to see what happens the next time he has that.

I'm going to take him to the gp today because when I got him undressed for bed last night his whole back looked like it was covered with cigarette burns, really angry looking patches all over and it's never been like that.

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JiltedJohnsJulie · 16/01/2014 08:03

Oh Greta that must be so tough for both of you. If he's tired, teething and his eczema is so bad, it's ever likely he's feeling rough by the afternoon.

Hope today is a little better Thanks

gretagrape · 16/01/2014 09:06

Thank you - you have given me loads of good advice on various threads (not that I'm always asking for help or anything!).

I've started putting him to bed a bit earlier - 6.30 instead of 7, but not sure if I should bring it forward to 6 or whether that might screw up his morning wake up. I might give it a go anyway and see what happens tomorrow.

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mezza123 · 16/01/2014 13:48

sounds to me like he's overtired as well so early bed a good idea. I don't think babies get tantrums so young!

gretagrape · 16/01/2014 14:06

I think you are right - well I have got some really thick creams from the doctor now so if it's eczema contributing to waking him up at night then they will hopefully help and maybe help to improve day time for him as well. He's so happy 90% of the time so these instant rages do come as a bit of a shock!

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