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1 year old waking at night

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sylwianotts · 08/01/2014 11:04

I would welcome your advice...

I have a 13 month old daughter, who still wakes at night. A lot. On a good night, 4 to 5 times, on a bad night (we get these far more often) can be up all night or every 10 mins.

She has been falling asleep by herself, without me in the room, since about 4 months old - her own idea, never trained her to do so.

At about 5 months, I moved her to her own room, thinking that maybe me and my partner are noisy sleepers. Before then, she was in our bed, but she still would wake many times at night.

After getting up and into her room at night for about 6 months, we moved her cot back to our bedroom, against our bed. No improvement. Sh wakes and screams even when she is in our bed. This is when all the advice I am given becomes useless, as all I hear is 1)she will sleep through if she falls asleep by herself and 2)she will sleep through if you sleep with her. Nothing works.

She wakes up crying, sits up, all I do is silently put her back down, give a dummy (although she often falls asleep without one, so isn't dependent on it) and she falls back to sleep- for 10 mins, for an hour, it depends on the night. No talking, no light on, just put her back on the back/side.

Sometimes I am so exhausted, that I cannot move- I hear her crying, but somehow can't "wake" my body. Once I left her to cry for about an hour, and she just kept screaming louder and louder, looking at me, lifeless, in my bed.

She has a routine every day, we have walks with the pushchair, regular meals that she likes, bath etc at night... sometimes we would have a more exciting day, but it doesn't make her sleep any better.

She eats normally, has meat, veg, fruit and milk throughout the day, her poos are frequent and normal looking, normal, healthy skin...

She usually has one nap 1-2 hours, but even then wakes frequently and sometimes carries on sleeping in my arms.

Yet another thing is that she cries a lot of the time. The are moments that she is fascinated by something and plays with it, but most of the time, she whinges- when I play with her, carry her etc. I can't leave the room, but even when I am with her and paying her attention, she just cries and cries... the only time she doesn't cry is in the car, and for abut an hour in the pushchair. Me and my partner don't argue etc, so don't think it is stress or anything...

She seems to be developing well, everything in line with "the books" and so on... she is walking around, babbling, copying me etc.

I am absolutely exhausted, as for more than a year I haven't slept more than approx 2 hours a day in pieces. During the day, I can't do anything but look after her as she cries and cries... She is teething at the moment and has been for over 7 months, but even after giving Nurofen at night she still wakes.

The house is a mess, I wash my hair maybe once a month if I'm lucky as by the time my partner gets home, I am exhausted (and still have to do some housework).

Him getting up at night is not an option, as he works 6 days a week and uses dangerous tools etc, so him being tired would create quite a risk. He does look after the kids (we have a 8yo as well) when he gets home, though. I feel like putting her in a nursery just so I can sleep, but it breaks my heart to think of it that way.

Please help.

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clema · 09/01/2014 01:48

I totally understand. My 10 month old is currently awake and has been for the last hour & a half. She has been doing this for about 6-8 weeks and I am exhausted. She didn't use to cry only chat for what seemed most of the night but the last 2 nights she has been screaming. I've tried to ignore her but she's so loud I'm concerned about neighbours and our older ds.
I don't know why but like you we have a good routine and good eating plan through the day. She doesn't nap well but never has mostly waking up after 45 mins.

Sorry I can't offer any suggestions I just wanted to say you are not alone. I posted here a few days ago in the hope of some help but seems thin on the ground.

I just keep telling myself it won't last forever. Hang in there.

Blueaddie · 09/01/2014 06:08

I hear you!

I too am at my wits end with lack of sleep and my kid is 15 months.

I have no advice, but I can tell you what I am planning on doing......getting a sleep specialist. Like you we have tried all kinds and there is no obvious answer to why she won't sleep so I am happy to throw some money at the problem!

Sleep deprivation is a well used and successful form of torture. If you can't get someone to help put her in nursery for a few hours so you can sleep! I am amazed/impressed you have lasted so long and not completely cracked up!!!

Blueaddie · 09/01/2014 06:15

Actually, on looking at what you have said about the crying all the time during the day, maybe you need to check there isn't some underlying problem that actually is nothing to do with sleep.

Friends of friends had a child who never slept and was also crying a lot in the day and they eventually found it was a health problem that meant the child was in pain.

I am not suggesting this is the case for you, more that you should speak to a health visitor/doctor to rule it out. It could be that you are treating this as a sleep problem when in fact it is an all day and night thing?!?

God I hope this doesn't scare/offend you!

ThisIsYourSong · 09/01/2014 06:28

Any indication of reflux, intolerances etc? It does seem like a lot of crying and must be hard and exhausting for you both

ThisIsYourSong · 09/01/2014 06:31

Does she sleep any better on her front? Both of my restless sleepers had good success in a hammock although I can't remember what age that went up to

sylwianotts · 09/01/2014 11:09

Thank you so much for your early replies.

I do actually feel like going slightly insane, I "wake up" every morning with a physical heartache, not sure if such stress/tiredness can cause a heart attack lol.

No signs of any intolerances, her skin and poos are normal looking, as a baby she wasn't sick with her milk and then formula, nothing.

The thing is, she actually has slept through the night twice, I think between sort of 5-7 months old, and never again even though the routine has always been more or less the same...

She likes her baths and driving in the car, laughing at her sister etc, which kind of makes me think that if she is capable of being happy, why only do it for about 10% of the time...

I agree about the torture, I am so exhausted I want to literally scream. There are moments when I feel aggressive. I would never act on it, but it does worry me, and don't really want to share it with the HV in case she calls SS :-/

I walk around with her in the pushchair and look at the mums with their make up on, looking alive, and here is me with greasy hair, wearing no bra and stained pyjamas under my puffa jacket (everything in order to minimise her waiting and crying). I feel ashamed, and nobody around me seems to believe how demanding my little one is... Bet they think I am just lazy :-/

To make it worse... my first daughter was somewhat similar- she was cosleeping with me until about 2,5 yo and never actually slept through, waking up lots. Then my current partner stepped in with the putting back to her bed method. She stopped crying- she learned to tiptoe quietly into our bed, and continued to do so most nights until about 5 YEARS OLD.

I feel like I am cursed!

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findingherfeet · 09/01/2014 21:13

A morning or day at nursery a week sounds like a good idea , sleep deprivation is torture and it sounds like u desperately need a chance to have a break/bath/nap, don't feel bad it will give you a chance to (slightly) re-energise and therefore benefit your children.

Or could your partner take over Sunday mornings for a couple of hrs?

What time is bedtime? If it were me I'd attempt keeping her up late in the hope of a stretch of sleep....

Bobsmyaunty · 09/01/2014 21:21

I'm also so impressed you've managed this far - well done, sleep deprivation is awful awful awful. You sound like such a lovely person.

I think the other posters suggestions of checking with a GP to cross off the possibility of a health issue, getting a sleep specialist in and into nursery for a day so you can get some well needed rest.

I really really hope things improve soon. Xx

Mummyjetsetter · 09/01/2014 22:02

My god get her in nursery and get a shower and sleep! I always think you can be a better parent if you have sleep so don't feel guilty feel empowered. I agree get her checked by the doc for ear infections etc. best of luck, don't know how you can be so patient, I couldn't handle it! x

ThisIsYourSong · 10/01/2014 06:36

I agree that you need a break. If you can afford nursery then definitely do it. They might be a good sounding board for you too. Is she crawling yet? (Sorry if you have already said but I can't read back).

I feel like what you are describing points to some kind of pain she is experiencing, it just doesn't sound normal. Some babies are difficult but they shouldn't be unhappy 90% of the time. best idea see your GP, hope you have an understanding one and that things improve for you soon.

sylwianotts · 10/01/2014 09:21

Thank you again for your replies. Having so many ears to listen has made me feel better :)

I think I will give in and take her to the doctor next week, not holding much hope though as the doctors there seem to be very vaugue about any diagnosis (once I brought my older daughter with a cough and the gp decided without any tests that it was asthma- turned out it was mould in of the rooms as we discovered after moving house...)

She has been crawling in the past, has been walking for about 2 months now :)

The routine is that she wakes up 6-7am, nap an hour or two (with wake ups) anything from between 9-11 to 11-1pm and that's it, she used to have two naps, but was fighting the second one so badly (and then the bedtime afterwards) that I gave in with one nap a day. Bedtime starts past 6pm, with her being in the cot about 7pm. She USUALLY falls asleep with the projector on within 10-20 minutes. And then wakes up throughout the night.

Today has been slightly worse... she woke up about 5 times, then eventually got up at 4am and no attempts worked. Thankfully my partner took over this time and had both of my daughters (my 8yo likes to wake up early for no reason... apart from school) until 7am, then I looked after her until 9am, when she eventually fell asleep in my arms. I think I will be booking an exorcist...

I will be talking to the doctor, but it does make me wonder that if this was pain, why doesn't nurofen work at all? And it seems to be more of an angry cry/whinge rather than sad... As if she was going to scream "Just do something already!!" in my face. She could be playing with a remote happily, then look up at me and start screaming. Walking around the room, but as soon as I sit down with a cup of tea and a biscuit (low maintenance breakfast!) she pulls on my clothes, my leg, I pick her up but she still whinges, I carry her round etc and nothing works... It just seems as if she was happy, then remembered that she was really angry at something (me?) and here comes the tantrum. Shecould be held by her dad and laughing, notice me and scream for me to take her, so I do- then she screams, bends in every direction to go down, I put ger down and the tears intensify... and so on.

I am considering a sleep expert too, are they any good as opposed just letting your baby cry it out whilst we are in another room?

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BotBotticelli · 10/01/2014 11:00

Hello op sounds like you are having a really tough time. My DS 13mo is also a real whinger and it can be very depressing having 'the miserable baby' when everyone else seems to be floating about drinking lattes and taking their happy little cherubs for walks in the park :-(

I don't have much helpful advice on the sleep front but I would deffo recommend getting her checke for any health problems...a low level ear infection that's worse when she's laid in bed??

Also I would say my life got about 100% easier when I put DS in nursery 3 days per week and went back to work! It's hard not to take it personally but my DS seems much happier at nursery than being at home with me...!! I know lots of posters on MN will find that hard to believe but honestly: the improvement in his mood when he started nursery was almost instantaneous. I genuinely think he had been BORED senseless at home in our small flat and with our outings to the shops, library and occasional baby groups. Now he comes home from nursery and is happy to be home, and obviously had a lovely time there. If you can afford a day or two a week it might really benefit your LO. And you can have a nice bath, sleep for a few hours and gather yourself a bit?

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