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11 weeks old and grumpy!

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 09:07

DS wont sleep (see my thread!), is grumpy because he wont sleep, cries unless i hold him (which is not practical as i also have dd 3.8), gets all worked up and in turn then i get worked up. Are 11 wk old babies meant to b grumpy or is it just mine?

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 10:05

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 14:15

anyone?

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colditz · 23/07/2006 14:18

Have you tried long walks in the pram? It settles my 13 week old quite well in the day, and my 3 year old gets exercised too, meaning more sleep all round!

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 15:04

thanks - any other suggestions?

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juuule · 23/07/2006 15:18

Agree with the going for a walk.
How about swaddling? (just a vest and wrapped in cotton cot sheet, if too warm.)
Why isn't it practical to hold him?
Can you hold him and read a story to your dd?
Possibly the hot weather causing some of the grumpiness. Is he thirsty?
As always - a lot of these things are trial and error. Hope he settles soon for you.

colditz · 23/07/2006 15:24

A (gasp) dummy? My baby loves his, sometimes it is the only thing that will settle him.

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 15:25

Colditz, dummy is in his mouth as we speak!!!

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colditz · 23/07/2006 15:26

Hmm.

Put him in the pushchair and get your 3 year old to rock it? My ds1 loves to rock the pushchair!

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 15:27

er............... my dd not so accommodating i'm afraid! DH is currently trying to get him to sleep now. Its so wearing!

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colditz · 23/07/2006 15:29

Does he have any sort of sleep pattern?

My ds2 goes back to sleep 2 hours after getting up in the morning, wakes briefly at lunchtime ish, sleeps again for about 20 minutes, then plays until teatime ish, then 20 mins sleep, then awake until bed at about 9.

he feeds all over the place, but if I don't put him to sleep at these sort of times, he gets really radgy.

colditz · 23/07/2006 15:30

Sorry, that sounds really smug, wehat I mean is if I miss his "sleep window" he won't sleep until the next one then will be foul.

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 15:32

Colditz - not smug at all

I have to take dd to preschool every morning so he has to fit in with that. Sometimes he will sleep in car on way but will wake up as soon as we get home.

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colditz · 23/07/2006 15:42

Is he happier when propped slightly upright? Could be a touch of reflux?

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 16:23

Yeah he does like to sleep in his car seat or bouncy chair. Whats reflux?

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colditz · 23/07/2006 16:27

It means acid from the stomach coming back into the throat and hurting. They can get more of it lying down flat. Does his pushchair have a "slightly prop" option? If you can keep him propped by a couple of inches it might keep him comfprtable enough to sleep.

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 16:29

Thanks Colditz will definitely try that!

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 16:46

Just thought he would be chilled as its my 2nd baby and i feel (or at least FELT) pretty relaxed about it all.

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Mandymoo · 23/07/2006 21:50

Maybe i just breed grumpy children

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springerspaniel · 24/07/2006 15:41

My LO was born in July last night and was mega-grumpy for first three months. Partly horrendous colic which for my next baby I am going to be more strict about getting on a routine (others would disagree) and also partly because it was so bl**dy hot. Bought an electric fan and put it so it blew over the basket. Combination of cool air and the noise helped a bit.

My sympathies because most of my friends had angel babies. Can't imagine doing it with a toddler in tow.

springerspaniel · 24/07/2006 15:42

For what it's worth, I tried a (gasp ) dummy at about week 3 and found it too much of a pain in the a*se as he loved it but it kept falling out.

liquidclocks · 24/07/2006 15:55

Poor you - weather can't be helping either! 2 suggestions, reflux - if it is this some infant gaviscon mixed with his feed (I think there's instructions on box how to give it if you're breast feeding) might help. My DS had it and was really grumpy until he learned to sit up. Also have you considered using a wrap/sling - DS loved his as he got to be cuddled, sit up (helped the reflux) and see what was going on - I loved it because I got my hands back

WinkyGirl · 24/07/2006 15:59

SpringerSpaniel Could you elaborate on the getting into a routine suggestion? I may be dim but my 8 week old has colic or something that makes her cry like hell from around 3pm to 10pm. I am thinking of starting a routine because I cannot seem to distinguish feed me/burp me/put me down for a nap cries.

And at what age do let them cry a bit if you know they are sleepy and need to settle themselves?

MandyMoo Hello fellow May Mum!

liquidclocks · 24/07/2006 16:44

Winky - I'm gonna get shot down big time here but if you're really struggling with those things there are two schools of thought - routine/wait and see. I did the routine (gina ford one) but it worked like heaven for us, DS got put in it about 5-6 wks and is still in it now at 21 months. I've heard the baby whisperer is very good to and a bit more softly softly in aproach.

Whatever you do though don't worry, you do eventually instinctively know what type of cry is what, it just takes a bit of time - not like the instant magical thing that you'd think happens reading some books!