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3yo bed wetting

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littleraysofsunshine · 03/12/2013 08:00

My dd1 was dry in the day a few months before her 2nd birthday and then dry at night about 2.5.

Then a combination of going on two holidays, season change? It's kind of gone a bit backward. Obviously being unwell can impact it, also we were thinking with our evening routine each night etc. (She's started dance Monday (before dinner time) and we do swimming Fridays so her fluid intake is different. But even with that we get her to wee a lot before bed, straight before bed and also limit her drink intake before a certain time ..

Take this week. She's only had one dry night. Last night she didn't have a lot of drink, and she had a huge wee before going to sleep but still weed loads?

I don't like pull ups as they made it worse as she it lazy with it I think as she knew he had a pull up on.

She also sleeps deep, so this may be another factor? I wanted to keep a diary to see anything but I keep a mental note and it's all pretty up & down? Also weekends are always a little later as we go to g'parents for dinner or something.

We're not putting any pressure on her as she's still small, but it's just that she was dry at night, then not.. Daytime was easy as pie

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littleraysofsunshine · 03/12/2013 15:49

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isitsnowingyet · 03/12/2013 15:56

She's 3 - I'd use pull ups and try toileting at night (at 10 or 11 pm) after she's been asleep for a while, and see if that helps her keep dry. You may not like pull ups but then you will have a lot of washing to do. Boots used to sell some pampers undersheets (like 2ft x 2 ft) which were very handy. My DS2 wet the bed until he was 8 or 9 - it wasn't laziness on his part - he really didn't wake up.

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littleraysofsunshine · 03/12/2013 18:21

We gave up on pull ups as she just knew that she had one on. She will not wake up or even wee in her sleep if we try that. We've done all this, she will just cry if woken, very deep sleeper.

It's usually around the 4/5am time or later that she wees.

Luckily I have a waterproof sheet I got for £7. But on average I do wash everyday and then not if she doesn't wee.

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Auntierosemary · 03/12/2013 20:59

Could the difference be that she is sleeping more deeply than she was six months ago? She certainly sounds busy! My daughter is also nearly three and there's no sign yet of her being dry at night, or even during daytime naps. I'm not concerned. Seems pretty average, going by other mums of kids her age that I know. Also , even if we don't tell them off for wetting the bed, they will feel the pressure themselves because they won't want to wake up in soggy sheets. I would (and do) go for pull-ups until they are totally dry every morning.

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littleraysofsunshine · 03/12/2013 22:07

She just stays asleep when wet..
And with pull ups I found she knew she had one so just weed as she knew she wouldn't get wet iyswim..

I'm not worried, just found it odd as she was dry at night then it changed..

She is rather busy! And also starting preschool everyday in jan so even more so!

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mary45678 · 12/12/2013 22:31

Try a bedwetting alarm. These work very well and have no side effects. Select a good one which will alert your child. I recommend the chummie bedwetting alarm - www.chummie.com
It has helped my 8-year old overcome bedwetting in under 7 weeks.
Good luck.

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littleraysofsunshine · 23/12/2013 10:22

She just sleeps so deep. I've tried to see any differences but there's not any really. (Amount of fluid, later night, later or earlier dinner, amount if times she wees before bed) nothing changes?

Resorted to pull ups the past week but funny (not) thing is that she's now waking at 4-530am? Not to wee all the time. Maybe just feels the pull up? But if no pull up its wet nearly every morning.

I don't mind the washing, but where she was wet each morning and obviously laying in it, it made her bottom cheeks sore and dry

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MyMotherHadMeTested · 23/12/2013 10:26

I'm very laid back about toilet training... does it matter if she knows she has a pull up on and does a wee in it? It does sound as if maybe she's sleeping more deeply at the moment, and will not wake up to do a wee, so if she's going to wee in her sleep is it not better to let her do it in something comfortable? Are you worried that it could be a habit that's harder to break when she's older?

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littleraysofsunshine · 06/01/2014 10:00

We just find that with a pull up she wees more. The past week we've had wet nights with no pull ups but sometimes her bed isn't wet? So I think it's a case of her standing up needing a wee and just not making it?

The amount of fluids seems to not make any difference. Or earlier or later bedtime or anything?

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FushandChups · 06/01/2014 11:12

DD (just 4 at the time) was the same - months of being dry and suddenly, wetting the bed, waking up and not even making it to the potty in the corner of her room etc

I think it was a delayed reaction to some big changes but like you, I didn't want to go back to pull ups - not because she wet them more but it just felt like a step back after so long. Dry Nites do those under sheet cover things which she still has (and I also have a couple of those special sheets) because she still has her moments.. only about once every couple of weeks but she does still do it.

As I understand it, fluid intake has nothing to do with it and restricting can have the opposite effect (you can really feel a full bladder so more likely to wake) but it is really all neurological - there is a trigger which needs to be 'switched on' for night wetting to really stop. This can be any age up to 7/8, I think,and I personally think it takes a while to lock into place - hence why DD went from being dry to having accidents. I am not a scientist though so could be completely wrong

Good luck - wet beds are a headache but like most things, there is normally a bit of regression before they totally nail it!

mezza123 · 06/01/2014 19:04

Does she still nap? Maybe she's waking early because she needs her nap cut, then wees. Sounds early to be dry at night, my DS only just night trained at 3 yrs 2 months :D

BaconAndAvocado · 06/01/2014 21:28

We had exactly the same scenario with our DD, dry at night then not!

I think her starting school caused a relapse.

She is now 5y 5mo and has been dry at night for about a month.

I read somewhere on MN that there is a hormone which enables a child to sleep without wetting and before this hormone develops a child's body is physically incapable of doing so IYSWIM

This kept me going and turned out to be completely true. Hang in there

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littleraysofsunshine · 06/01/2014 21:54

She doesn't nap in the day, if she does it's very rare.

She doesn't seem bothered by it, if anything she can be oblivious and think she didn't wet the bed bless her. We're not pressuring her at all, just wondered why she was then wasn't dry. It could be anything couldn't it, weather change, darker mornings, we went abroad which changed it (later nights with drinks), she started preschool, dance class and swimming. All changing routine factors. But we'll get there, all it means is another load of washing each day which isn't much more lol

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littleraysofsunshine · 10/01/2014 08:17

Take yesterday. She had a very little amount of fluid all day. Just little sips. A morning small cup of warm milk and a tiny bit of water at dinner time by choice. She usually drinks more.

She had a wee before bath and then fell asleep after bath at 7:15. Her bed was socked by 9:30pm. We changed it and her pit another sheet on, wet again by about 1 we sorted it again which woke her properly and she couldn't get back to sleep then until about 4, then woke again at 6:30 wet again.

It's like she is storing fluid at night even when not having much? She will wee if she's had a lot or very little.

In the past we checked for UTI, never been a sign. Her bedtimes and fluid drinking times haven't altered her bed wetting.

I don't get it?

She was dry at night for two/three months in the summer. Then more wet, now completely wet the past two months

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Gileswithachainsaw · 10/01/2014 08:25

Seriously she's three, put her back in a pull up. So what if she knows, she won't be seeing in her sleep forever.

She's not going get enough sleep if she's going to be woken up to change the bed constantly.

Maybe once she's been able to sleep through a few nights undisturbed and has acclimatized to the extra activity things will get back to normal. :)

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littleraysofsunshine · 10/01/2014 09:02

The night waking was a one off. She usually sleeps through and just wakes up wet.

I just see pull ups as a backward option. She refers to them as "like nappies" so she does know. We'll see how she goes, some mornings she has been wetting herself as she's literally stood out of bed it seems. As her bed isn't wet but she is.

We're not pressuring her btw. She doesn't seem bothered (last night was an exception as I do think they're both sensing baby #3 is coming soon) three is still very small I know, just trying to see what's best for her

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