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6 year old behaviour concerns

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lottiebean · 26/11/2013 14:34

This is the first time I have ever posted on anything like this but appreciate some advice/insight. Apologies for long waffly post - hope you can make it to the end!!

The background
My daughter has just turned 6 years old. She has always been a bright, very lively,quite rough and tumble child as she has an older sporty 9 year old brother. She is not a girly girl. ( e.g. She has recently started playing rugby and to my shock was as good as if not better than the boys !) She is also very sporty and agile in other areas. Both are quite competitive with each other and they do argue alot - with her doing much of the wind up as he is more easily irritated. She is also very affectionate and caring and we have a close loving relationship. (Not of course without its ups and downs that most usual parents complain of). But at home she is generally cooperative, gets herself washed and dressed (with some supervision) and will get down to homework (begrudgingly sometimes but not always. So in all - fairly normal, slightly loud boisterous kids who sometimes need strong parents to calm them down a bit.

The Problem
Recently over the last week the teacher has started to say that she is causing problems in class on at least 2 occasions; being overly rough with other children (alot of whom are quite rough kids themselves when I have seen them); writing on their work; wriggling around and talking on the carpet (DS is quite fidgety at times so was my son) and now yesterday she didn't say her name when called for yoga class so went to playground instead of class. For that, she has been disciplined for dishonesty. (She wanted to play in the playground as she hates the lying down bit in yoga she said). I have started to discuss some of these issues with her and at first she lied about other children bullying her and pulling faces in class which she then admitted wasn't true. She said basically she just wants to be naughty to see when she would get told off! Testing the boundaries? She says she thinks the teacher is too strict and she wants to do her own thing. She is a very single minded child but also copies alot of behaviour from other children if that makes sense. A bit rebellious but not malicious. Her teacher seemed very angry with her behaviour and despite hearing it for the first time, I felt like I was the one being told off too! I do of course always do my best to support school/teacher.

Since then she has started to wet her bed (after being dry for 6 months) and also has complained of stomach pains now I think about it for the last 3 weeks (had urine tested ok).

The Verdict anyone?
I am at a loss to what is going on. It seems she has turned into a bit of a liar as well and can be a bit underhand. Whats worse is that whilst she seems upset when I tell her off and tell her how important it is to listen in school etc etc she doesn't really seem to care. My son has a real work ethic - and has attained 2 years above himself at end of year 3 and he had the odd off day - I am just worried that if I don't nip this in the bed - it could get worse - or do all children just go through phases where they are unsettled? She clearly cannot stand this particular teacher. At home - I can get her to work really hard and achieve loads - at school she just seems to rebel! I know she is only 6 but its a shame if she starts getting a reputation for being a trouble maker. Has anyone had same experience and worked /didn't work?

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MaybeABitLikeTigger · 26/11/2013 20:04

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Andro · 26/11/2013 21:45

Since then she has started to wet her bed (after being dry for 6 months) and also has complained of stomach pains now I think about it for the last 3 weeks (had urine tested ok).

Hmmm, warning bells that something isn't quite right!

If she's had a urine test, I'm guessing she's been thoroughly checked out by the GP? Does the GP know about the abdominal pain?

Are you sure she was lying about the bullying and didn't change her story because she thought that was what you wanted (I know one child who did that)? Is she anxious about anything?

Andro · 26/11/2013 22:06

A couple of other things:

Is the person teaching the yoga fully qualified? Yoga can be very powerful and if taught incorrectly cause problems because different postures stimulate different parts of the body.

Is the yoga mandatory? If she dislikes it so much is it possible to withdraw her?

Is she being challenged enough work wise?

Why does she dislike her teacher so much? 'Too strict' is a bit of a catch all statement so a long chat with your DD and also wither teacher may be in order.

Have you spoken to the GP about abdominal migraines? It might be worth it.

vladthedisorganised · 27/11/2013 13:55

I'm watching this with a lot of interest as I'm seeing the same with my DD at preschool.
Every single day I get a report of DD 'not listening'; and I'm really at a loss as to what to do about it. Apparently every single day at the same time, she pretends to be ill and says she needs to lie down - this was true once when she had a fever, but three weeks on she's still doing it.

When I've asked her why, she's said she doesn't know; when I ask her what is it that means she doesn't listen well at preschool, she says she doesn't know. Every single day she'll say "But I'm going to do much better tomorrow", which is heartening but exactly the same thing happens the next day, and it's as if she thinks once she's said that she's off the hook, if that makes sense. Consequences, star charts and the like have had no effect at all.

At home she has her moments (such as getting dressed) but generally does OK; it just seems to kick off at preschool.

I don't have anything helpful to suggest yet, but I wonder if the bedwetting and abdominal pains your DD is experiencing are signs that something isn't right. Might be worth checking out abdominal migraines.

tumbletumble · 27/11/2013 14:14

Have you read How to Talk so Kids Listen and Listen so Kids Talk? I would recommend.

Katiebeau · 27/11/2013 15:50

Sorry OP I'm responding to Vlad.

Ask the GP to check her ears. My DD didn't have issues at home but did at school. Bless her heart her hearing was 1/2 gone by the time we got her assessed (all fixed now, glue ear).

OP I too am included to think your DD may be being bullied. Sorry for no helpful advice but sudden personality changes usually follow issues socially or at home (not the case here).

lottiebean · 27/11/2013 23:47

Thanks for all of the replies. I have an appointment to see teacher and GP lined up. My husband has also started to have a few chats with her - she adores him to bits and I can imagine she will listen to him behaviour wise. I have started to get too impatient with her and need to take a step back. I read some great advice from TiggyHop on another post aswell. I need to stop over analysing.

I do wonder about the bullying - she definitely feels anxious about school now- there are some real trouble makers in her class - the school never thought to 'spread the love' when they created 3 year 1 classes so it seems all the behaviour issues are in one class! She has a high propensity to 'copy' peer behaviour and I wonder if the rough competitive type play she engages in has now backfired on her and she is getting worse back.

As for the teacher- I am starting to find her a bit scary. She seems really angry and wound up when she explains a bad day and I feel as if somehow I am to blame for having such a handful of a child. I can see that she is the type of personality that DD would rebel against. Strangely I have started to feel on the defensive myself! Perhaps she has the same effect on my DD as she has on me!! She doesn't seem very positive or nurturing although in her defence she has said what she expects DD to do strategy wise if people upset her. It appears though that in a class of 30, she expects the children to fight their own battles and not tell tales.

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