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11 month dd wants to stand up in cot ,not sleep help!!!!!

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:01

i know when babies develope a new skill they try it out at all times,but she's screaming because sh's tired but will not stop rolling over and standing up,bedtimes have become a nightmare,im refusing to change my routine,but i can't stand listening to her crying,of courese i give her the odd cuddle and reassure her but she doesn't want to lie down until we are all exhausted,please help!!!!

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hermykne · 30/06/2006 21:05

erinsmom, sympathies, nothing worse at the ned of the day and ur dying for ur time.
what is her day routine and at 11mths whats her bedtime?
she mightnt be ready for sleep eventhou u think its time. my ds could stand up in his cot but didnt because he was ready for sleep, i dont think they protest if they really are knackered and arent teething or uncomdfortably in some way

SenoraPostrophe · 30/06/2006 21:06

well, plan 1: go into room, no eye contact, no light, no talking except to say "go to sleep", lie her down and then leave the room. do this every 5-10 mins. maybe also stroke her head. don't cuddle her because it'll make her want to stay up more.

it may take a while. if it gets too much, then plan 2: follow instructions in plan 1 but do so only once, then leave to cry.

I've used both of these plans successfully with ds and he is the stubbornest boy who ever lived. we only use plan 2 occasionally but it's never been more than 30 mins crying.

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:08

oh she's teething alright ,she's been going to sleep at 7 like clockwork for the last 10 months or so,now she can stand its all changed,she used to have two naps a day about 30 mins each now we are down to one usually in the morning,she eats well drinks well,but doesnt want to lie down

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SenoraPostrophe · 30/06/2006 21:08

hermykne - I have to disagree there. ds does protest for no reason other than he doesn't want to go to sleep. and he does it more when he's overtired rather than when he's not tired enough. In fact erinsmom, I should have posted plan 3: put her to bed 15 mins earlier tomorrow.

SenoraPostrophe · 30/06/2006 21:09

did the playing up at bedtime start when you dropped the nap? if so can you make the nap later and bedtime earlier?

also have you given calpol for her teeth?

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:11

ill try that,she's crawling around the front room now,we got no sleep last night i think i will wait until she's totally shattered,i dont want to be up at 4 doing the bedtime routine again

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hermykne · 30/06/2006 21:11

erinsmom maybe the teething is hurting her ears and lying is causing an ache. how many nights has she been like that? and if its more than 5 then maybe senoras approach might work.
what od u use for theething

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:12

she's had calpol, teething gel,bottle ,a yoghurt,but looking at her now she wants to play

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:15

if anything i say its teeth,shes just cut a top tooth and its not all the way through,but she's got pink cheeks,last time i got the dr to check and it does seem to affect her ears although they are not inflammed,ive heard you can get teething powders have you heard of them

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hermykne · 30/06/2006 21:17

oh goodness, hey little erin what are u at, so its 2hrs past her bedtime, i'd try nurofen for babies instead of calpol (waste of money imo).
otherwise push her nap up in the day ifs its only once, what time is it? and the ntry for same bed time again.

hermykne · 30/06/2006 21:18

oh and dont engage with ehr now she has to know playtimes over

notsoladyjess · 30/06/2006 21:18

try chamomilla (or teetha, it's the same thing but loads more expensive). it is homeopathic so chills them out too.

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:18

she naps at 11 am then usually about 2 then bed at 7

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hermykne · 30/06/2006 21:24

erinsmom keep her up tom til noon and see how it goes. and get her up tom morn at normal time - otherwise it wont work, i know its a lie in if she sleeps on!1

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:27

she gets up about 6.30 regularly,she seems like superbaby at the moment where is all this energy coming from,do you think she needs more stimulation in the day?

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hermykne · 30/06/2006 21:29

erinsmom she maybe on a wave of energy !! but no she prob needs to know its sleeptime and she needs it in the day as well as night.
try dragging the morn nap as late as possible tom, give her 1 1/2hr sleep and see how tomorrow night goes. at that age both of mine went ot bed at 7.30 or so.

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:30

i never get a 1 and a halfhours nap out of her ,more like 30 mins

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:31

we had all this with her sister but i cant remember what we did,mind you she's 5 now and still will not go to bed!!!

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erinsmom · 30/06/2006 21:33

right im off to give the bedtime routine a go ,dh is dispearing,i will post tomorrow and let you know how i get on,cheers for the advice.

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AHF · 30/06/2006 21:58

I agree with the lying down + leave method, worked for my daughter, too. She is A) VERY stubborn and B) VERY cranky when gets over-tired, to the point of not sleeping because too tired. If Calpol doesn't help, have you tried childrens Nurofen?

PanicPants · 30/06/2006 22:03

10month ds has just done this, and I'm afraid I'm really cruel, I kiss him goodnight and thats it. I don't go back, even if he's standing by the time I get to the door. The first time he cried for about 20mins (felt like an eternity) but most nights he now lies himself down and goes to sleep within a few minutes.

staceym11 · 30/06/2006 22:22

now iv been lucky with dd as she loves sleep as much as i do and has always known as soon as she is in her bed she is to sleep. we did have some problems when we moved house as i didnt buy blackout blinds (stupid mummy) so it wasnt dark (and she was 19 month so a bit stubborn) and it was taking 3 hrs for her to go to sleep, but i jsut kept going in laying her down and not saying anything. eventually it worked now it takes about 10/15 mins for her to sleep and she doesnt get up just sings to her teddies. this is prob worth a try if shes not teething.

but...........if its teeth id go with the teething granuels, (they're sold in boots, tesco, anywhere really) with the homeopathic stuff, as it almost knocks them out (well at least it did my dd) and doesnt have chemicals (i dont think!)

good luck!

riab · 05/07/2006 13:15

She might need more naptime. Ds is 15 months and still has 2 hrs after lunch.

He went through the phase of standing up as well and we just had to do kiss, lie down and leave. Then if he got hysterical with screaming I'd go back in. An alternative is to sit, head down where they can see you but DON'T speak or touch them. They know you are there and will drop of to sleep more easily

Reece · 05/07/2006 14:00

How have you got on over the last few days???

Sounds to me like she may need more daytime sleep. My DS2(16mths)gets up at 7/7.30, nap at 10.30/11am and sleeps for 2 hours, sometimes more. He then goes to bed at 7pm.

DS1(2.8) has always loved his sleep like DS2. I was strict with both of them from the start, they have both cried it out but not much. They soon get the message that bed is for sleep. it's tough to do it but it has worked for me.

When teething it is more difficult to leave them. I use Nurofen and calgel.

Good Luck.

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