Our loving, very active, always on the go, very strong willed DD doesn't respond to a stern voice. She always listens to 'no' but we have found that when she is tired the only way she will do what we say is if we give the option of doing it or mummy/daddy goes downstairs (generally we are upstairs putting her to bed), after a tantrum because we've gone downstairs, we go back up and she does what we want. What we need to know is did anyone else find this worked and when do they finally grow out of it? The problem is she's very dramatic so anything else she thinks is a game 