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Veryshy1 · 08/09/2013 00:06

Can I ask does anyone else have this, my 6 month old at night when I have to change his nappy he screams the house down!! He won't stop till after i changed his nappy and I pick him back up. I try to sing to him or whistle, but the more I do this the louder he screams!

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morebooksplease · 08/09/2013 09:51

Mine doesn't, but I very rarely change her nappy at night - only if I can smell it or know she's pooped. Does your DS's need changing every time? He may be sleepy and confused or cold.

beckslovestimmy · 08/09/2013 10:18

I don't change DD nappy over night either. (Unless she's pooed). What size are you using. We're on a size 4 sainsburys nappy and we don't get any leakes. We put it on before her last feed at about 7pm and change when she gets up at about 8.30

Veryshy1 · 08/09/2013 14:27

I use pampers size 4. Last few days little man has been waking up very regular and thought his nappy was full and he was uncomfortable. But also think he is teething as well.
Should I leave it even though he's woken up if he hasn't pooped?

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beckslovestimmy · 08/09/2013 17:31

I do, if she wakes in the night I don't put on the light, talk to her, or pick her up (unless she's really distressed, I'm not mean) This way she doesn't wake up fully and is easier to get back to sleep. I haven't changed a nappy at night for months nowSmile

Veryshy1 · 08/09/2013 19:53

Thank you. I'll try that with him.
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beckslovestimmy · 08/09/2013 21:15

Can he roll? I find DD settles back to sleep much better if I hold her on her side. If she rolls onto her back before she's back asleep she screams, my friend finds this with her DD too.

nocoolusernameY0 · 08/09/2013 22:39

"I do, if she wakes in the night I don't put on the light, talk to her, or pick her up (unless she's really distressed, I'm not mean) This way she doesn't wake up fully and is easier to get back to sleep. I haven't changed a nappy at night for months now"

This makes me so sad.

Close your eyes and imagine wearing a nappy, imagine the feel of it against your skin. Now imagine it being filled with cold urine. Imagine tossing and turning, imagine the feel of the wet plastic rubbing against your skin and genitals. Imagine it sticking to your bottom... Is that comfortable? No. Maybe it isn't so uncomfortable that you scream the place down (become "really distressed"). Maybe you don't make any fuss about it because you have learned from past experience that your fuss isn't going to change your situation. Either way, it still feels like crap.

It doesn't make sense to me that a wet baby would ever feel as comfortable as a dry one, so I would always change a wet baby at night as well as the day.

While it seems sensible not to put the light on, talk, or play at night time, I do not think that you should stop touching or cuddling your baby because it's dark outside. I'm certain that this is effective in getting them to stop asking for comfort (and waking you up so often), but at what price?

Mine have never cried specifically because I've changed their nappy - but they would certainly have done if they'd been left wet, or if I hadn't soothed them back into a sound sleep afterwards. They definitely would have screamed like your lo if I hadn't nursed them back to sleep - because this was the way they had been put down to sleep in the first place. I'd probably be stumped if you told me that you just put your baby down on his own in his cot for bed and then he cried when he woke up in exactly the same environment. But I could understand he would expect to be cuddled back to sleep if this is the thing he remembers doing before he drifted off. He might also scream simply because he's been woken up - sometimes I feel like doing this and I'm a grown woman! But please don't let this convince you not to night change - just be gentler or quicker or change him on your knee etc. It's very unlikely that he wouldn't wake up and do the same thing if you left him wet anyway (unless you ignored his needs consistently enough to ensure that he gave up asking you to fulfill them).

Can you give some more information about your night time routine? How do you put him down to sleep? Where does he sleep? Does he tell you he's wet, or do you change him at a particular time (like before you go to bed yourself)? Does he wake up completely when you're changing him? Are his eye's open or closed when you've finished and have to pick him up? Anything else?

beckslovestimmy · 09/09/2013 09:01

Thanks for that nocool! You make it sound like I am abusing my baby! Who are you to judge me? Your entitled to you opinions but back off! First off if DD seeks comfort she gets it, if she wakes I go straight to her. I just try to limit any stimulation so as not to rouse her any more from her sleep and to make it easier for her to go back to sleep. Secondly I stopped changing her nappy when she no longer needed a feed at night and began sleeping through of her own accord. I'm lucky that she very rarely wakes at night. I never had and never would do CC or CIO, I would never ignore my baby or her needs.

nocoolusernameY0 · 10/09/2013 11:16

I didn't judge you, you may be a wonderful person, I've got no idea. I was judging the approach of leaving a baby without touch all night. Your original post made it sound like you didn't touch your baby at all between 7pm and 8:30am - that's more than half of her life. I think that babies flourish in close human contact and I don't think that a parent getting a better nights sleep is strong enough justification to withhold it. You gave your opinion against touch at night to Veryshy, I gave her my opinion in favor of touch. She should hear both sides of the argument so that she can decide what sits better with her. I didn't give her my opinion about you. How could I?

But you say that you go straight to your lo if she wakes, you just don't over stimulate her. Does this mean you don't pick her out of her cot, or you don't touch her at all? I think it's important because VeryShy said that she was going to try it out. You also say that you stopped changing her when she started sleeping through - this might be because she's dry, in which case you wouldn't need to change her anyway. It could have sounded to VeryShy that she could expect her lo to sleep through in a wet nappy, which I don't think is a healthy expectation.

Also, 2 of my mine are still sleeping in my bed in constant contact with me (14mnths & 3 yrs), and they never actually wake up in the night, so I don't think it should be taken for granted that touching a baby will rouse them from sleep.

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