Poos in pants & night time

[gourd]

Our daughter will-be-3 on 12 Sept so we did toilet training just less than 3 weeks ago in our 2-week annual leave time. She wasnt interested in using the potty but took to toilet use really well. It took one day of wet knickers/floors, one day of her holding for 7 hours then wanting nappy on, weeing in it but then being upset as she wanted to use the toilet but couldn?t produce anything when sat on it. But on day three, toilet use was successful for all wees, and we?ve had no weeing accidents since then, even on 8-hour day trip to zoo.

Two issues:

1. Still nearly always poos in pants. Luckily this is only 1-2 times a day so not too traumatic. Occasionally gets in in the toilet but more often than not goes to toilet saying needs to poo but then nothing happens straight away so she gets off again, wanders off then poos in pants instead. She loses control of bowels when upset/tantrum - obviously only if they are full of course, but am now wondering if she is holding till bursting point then poo-ing when upset. How can we get past this? I?ve tried reading story for her on toilet (don?t know what childminder is doing to try to get her to sit longer- as she has other kids she looks after). Daughter just seems to either be holding it in till bursting point, or just not timing the toilet visits quite right - not sure which. Any thoughts?

2. On 5 consecutive mornings this week daughter has woken with dry nappy and wants to use knickers (no nappy) at night (had major tantrum last night when insisted on nappy on for bed) but isn?t this too soon? I don?t want to stop her if she really wants to but worried it will mean being woken up in night for bedding change or to help her go to toilet and since I already get up 2-3 times the night anyway I?ll be even more knackered for work ? I know this must come eventually but is it too soon? She?s only been using toilet (no nappy) for just less than 3 weeks. Is it worth letting her try or just pointless optimism on her part?

Bump. Anyone? This is still ongoing. Nappies dry after night time so we are thinking of tring no nappy at night.

However pooing in pants continues. Very occasionally it goes in toilet but nearly always in pants. Still dont know if she is not waiting long enough on the toilet or not timing the toilet visit right or whether it is some other issue. It seems strange to me that wees were no problem at all and still no accidents even when out and about and on long drives or at CMs all day (10 hrs a day, 4 days a week) yet poos can hardly EVER be done in toilet!

Have you considered overflow from constipation, this can cause issues with soiling and lack of awareness of need to do a poo. It is more usual to be clean before being able to be dry.

I think you are right to give a go with no nappy at night, you can always return to nappies if required.

Sounds like she is doing really well.

Hello! My DD is younger than yours by six months or so but due to abominable nappy rash we too did potty training in the last couple of weeks even though she wasn't interested...

And we are in exactly the same place as you which tells me this is all precisely normal :)

Day 2 she was dry overnight and because a friend had already given me this advice, after 4 dry nights I just took the nappies away. She hasn't wet the bed once - well, ok, once, but she had last been for a pee at 5.30, then fell asleep in the car for 1.5 hours, and I forgot to get her to pee before puttig her in bed. She then slept til 6.15 and I failed to go get her up til 6.40... She had not yet learned it's ok to ask to use the potty before the groclock lights up! But there's no way I could hold it in for 13 hours so hardly a big deal.

Re poo, it has taken many weeks before some of her friends would poo in the potty - nursery's attitude is "she'll get there in her own time" so am trying not to let it get to me!

still good to hear your DD is doing the exact same things as mine :)

PS my friend's DS is 3, has been potty trained for several months nominally but is still not happy to poo on the loo - will only do it in a nappy so she has to stick one on him every couple of days. My DD is definitely unhappy about the sensation rather than constipated, and I think that's partly why she won't sit long enough or if she does a pee will instantly jump up. Her behaviour changed instantly the day we took the nappies off.

My dd1 did this for 3 months and then clicked. Showing her the poo goes to pooland video on utube helped which I was told about on MN. My DD2 is 2.5 and she is just about potty trained. She goes with no nappy at night and is successful abut 80 per cent of the time so far.....

My dd is 2.6 and has been dry for a few weeks now, very easy.
However once a day she runs in with a nappy which she lobs at us saying poo poo.
We always offer the potty or toilet but she says no.
Nappy goes on, she goes off to hide, comes back undoing nappy as she goes and hands us the wet wipes.
I am largely unbothered as ds3 did it too and I do t want to make a thing of it.
I have also heard its very common.

DS is 2.8, he decided at the end of July he was going to wear pants! He was the same with poo but we seem to have cracked it. We gave him a reward (new engine for his railway) when he did the first one in the potty, and then bought ten tiny cars in a pack from £1 shop, he earnt one for each subsequent poo in the pot. By the time we finished the pack of 10, he had got it and now he does them in his potty with no fuss. With him I suspect it was laziness and he needed a bit of motivation to do it, now he can see the benefits and knows that 'mummy and daddy so pleased'.

Night time he wears a pull up just in case but is often dry. We hadn't used pullups before, so we call them night pants. He told us when he wanted to stop wearing nappies, so I think we'll wait until he tells us he doesn't want 'night pants' either!

Ledkr - yes she does that too - goes and hides in her room, shuts door, tells us to go away and then comes out saying she's done a poo (in pants).. hmm sounds like it should hopefully sort itself out eventually. I'm not telling her off or anything (except to say "Next time you need a poo, can you do it in the toilet? It's better") as I dont want a big issue made of it but it is rather messy, so hope she gets the idea soon.