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DS doesn't listen. What can I do? (Long, sorry!)

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aufaniae · 06/06/2013 21:55

Had a disaster of an afternoon. 4 yo DS was at his swimming lesson. He disrupted the whole lesson by repeatedly splashing the other DCs and ignoring the instructor and talking over her. He had to be separated from the group.

I wasn't there, but I can imagine it as pretty much the same happened when I took him last week. So this week happened despite a talk with him before swimming about how to be good at swimming lessons (specifically discussing splashing and listening), and a bribe of chocolate at the pool shop after if he did good listening, and also making sure he'd done lots that day specifically so he wasn't suffering cabin fever (which I thought might be the problem the week before).

He has selective hearing which would rival the most cantankerous of elderly aunts! He's been like this since he was a toddler - we even took him to audiology when he was really little (at the suggestion of the HV who came to visit when we moved) to check his hearing in case that was causing him to ignore us! Blush But his hearing is fine.

As well as phasing his parents out, he often just ignores other people too. Our lodger often says hi to him, and he acts as if she's said nothing.

His behaviour had been pretty bad in general recently, and I've tried to look at what we can do differently. DP and I have been very busy this last couple of years, with studying encroaching massively on our family life and this has got to have had an effect.

We use time out, confiscating toys, positive reinforcement / giving tons of praise for good things, we have bribery with a sticker chart which translates into pocket money.I've started reading Calmer happier Easier Parenting and trying to implement the suggestions, but I guess it takes time.

He's a lovely child, good natured and bright. But big for his age, and when he's badly behaved I can see other DCs can find it intimidating, today he just wouldn't stop repeatedly splashing for example. He even splashed the teacher in the face last week. He thinks it's a funny game, I don't think he registers other people think it's mean. He knows it's not acceptable though. I don't want him to become, or be perceived as a bully Sad

I don't know what to think, I feel a bit defeated at the moment tbh. I feel sorry for DS as he's missing out. TBH I enrolled him for swimming as I hoped something structured but fun might help encourage him to listen. But if he does the same next week we'll have to quit I think. (We tried football group before and had to pull him out of that too as he disrupted the class to the point it wasn't fun for anyone - screaming, tantruming etc as he couldn't cope with not being able to do what he wanted i.e. play with the ball all the time. He was the oldest there and the least able to follow instructions).

I'm considering popping into the pool with him to apologise to the instructor. And letting him know it's his last chance or he leaves the group. (We tried bribery, that hasn't worked!) He did 3 lessons which were mostly OK, so he can do it!

To be clear, this isn't just about swimming - that's just one typical example of a much bigger picture.

Sorry for the essay! Any advice gratefully received.

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girliefriend · 06/06/2013 22:00

Has he started school yet?

What happened after swimming?

Sorry am bit too tired to think of anything constructive to say!!

footballsgalore · 06/06/2013 22:15

I wonder if at 4 he may be a little young for structured activities like swimming and football. If he is at school he may be too tired. School really takes it out of them. If he is not yet at school it may just be that he's not quite ready for it yet.
Neither of my 2 DS's started this type of thing till the end of year 1. They just couldn't have cope with it.

Maybe a way to tackle this and the fact that you feel you have been busy and possibly not doing as much together as you would like, would be to have family swimming trips and footy games together at the park?

Kiwiinkits · 06/06/2013 22:18

I would probably be more direct with the consequences. For example, when he's playing up in the pool say, "DS, the teacher is talking to you and that means you need to listen. If you don't want to listen you will need to get out of the pool and I will take you straight home. Do you want to listen or do you want to go home?" Whatever he chooses, you do. If he chooses to leave swimming, so be it. Let his choice of consequence fall where it falls.
Another thing. Does he have a lot of male influence in his life? Male teachers? Spend a lot of time with his Dad?

aufaniae · 07/06/2013 11:29

Thanks for the replies :)

girliefriend He starts school in September. He's ready for it I reckon. His CM (he went to while we were studying) agrees, she says she thinks he's been ready for ages. At the open days for example, he went and sat with the classes and joined in (very nicely).

It was DP who took him to swimming this week, I don't know what happened directly after. The direct consuquences were that he was separated from the others in the lesson. He'd had a talking to on the way home (but DP does tend to go on a bit, I think DS just phases him out tbh). And when he got home I also spoke to him about how it was serious and that next time would be his last chance. He wasn't allowed to watch TV. He had dinner, bath then bed.

footballsgalore perhaps you're right he's just not ready for it. The football was a while back, and that was my conclusion back then too. The swimming was partly an attempt to help with the not listening though. If we cancel the classes, I still need to find other some way to help him learn to listen to instructions / people!

I think you're right about more family stuff together. In fact just this morning DP said he'd take DS to the park - we've got so used to parenting in turns - so I've invited myself and baby DD along too. I'm looking forward to spending more time together as a family this summer.

Kiwiinkits I think you're probably right about more direct consequences. If he does it again next time I'll tell him he has to get out of the pool. I'm dreading it though, if he refuses (which he may well) there's not much I can do. I can't lift him any more, he's big for his age and too heavy for me now.

Yes he spends quite a bit of time with his dad.

OP posts:
girliefriend · 07/06/2013 14:44

I reckon school will sort him out Wink

footballsgalore · 07/06/2013 14:54

School definitely helps with the listening skills! My DS does try to phase us out. Think he's either engrossed in what he's doing/ watching on TV or is sick of the sound of my voice Wink.
We now make him look at us and make eye contact and turn off TV/take toy away for a minute until he listens. We don't do it in a 'telling off' way. More in a 'this is what we do because it's polite' way. Then it doesn't end up as us shouting too often!

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