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DD (8) does not sleep...... any advice?

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NellyTheElephant · 06/01/2013 17:35

DD1 is about to turn 8. As a baby she was a super sleeper - slept 7pm to 7am - 12 hrs a night from 8 weeks old and continued to do so until she was around 4.

Then gradually she started to go to sleep later and later. She's a good girl and thankfully loves reading, but her inability to go to sleep leaves her exhausted, grumpy and disruptive much of the time. Her face is often pinched with bags under her eyes, some days she just looks grey and exhausted. I put her younger siblings to bed 7pm ish and then DD1 goes up for a bath at 8pm ish and lights out at 9pm ish. But after lights out she doesn't sleep, just lies there tossing and turning for hours. She is never asleep when I go to bed. Obviously she will often turn her lights back on and keep reading as lying in bed in the dark not sleeping is not a great deal of fun, I understand that but I feel we need to try and impose lights out in the vain hope that she might sleep.

Once she is asleep she is a heavy, deep sleeper, the problem seems to be that however exhausted she is she can't drop off. Over the holidays she has been getting up a fair bit later - 8 / 8.30ish and she would definitely sleep longer than that in the mornings if she could but with 2 younger ones the general noise and bustle wakes her. This makes it clear to me that she does need the sleep, she just can't seem to let go and fall asleep at night

What should I do? Should I just let her leave her light on and read herself out? Should she see a doctor? We have tried everything over the years: music / story CDs / relaxation techniques / relaxation CDs / herbal remedies / aromatherapy. Any other thoughts?

I'm posting here rather than in the sleep section as that seems mainly to relate to baby sleep issues.

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sipper · 07/01/2013 22:47

Back to the magnesium.... DH told me this evening that if tingling is too much with the spray, get some of the bath salts and start even more gently, then work up to the spray. (That should hopefully all make sense if read my earlier posts).

Nelly it really sounds like your very smart bookworm's (lovely!) body clock is not regulating as it should. B12 and mag are both linked to melatonin function so I would def say they are worth trying. As magnesium is a mineral, even if diet is good, sadly our soil isn't so levels aren't necessarily as good as we'd hope. We are not vegetarians, we do have v healthy diet, (sometimes I wish we didn't....the allure of a ready meal does sometimes make me long for a shove it in the oven option!), but DH is very clear that we need the B12 and mag supps (also a few others, but on the sleep front the b12 and mag are crucial ones).

hillbilly · 08/01/2013 13:52

Similar situation with DD (7) and I have posted a few times about it. She is scared of everything when she goes to bed and we have tried numerous ways to help her drift off. I have just bought What to do when you Dread your Bed and will start with that tonight. We have spoken to a counsellor at school who is going to do a session a week at school with her (DD very excited about this) and we were advised to give her something of ours to use as a cuddly at night. She chose a soft toy rabbit which I used to have as a child. We sit with her until she goes to sleep and it's beginning to improve. She was asleep in 20 mins last night!

duvet · 09/01/2013 21:38

Reading through this thread with interest as have similar issues with DD 9 and like MSmommy it's much more of an issue in term time, over the holidays when they are probably more relaxed dd sleeps more like 11 hours, now we are 2 days back in school and both nights still awake til 9.45 - still awake now! Feel so sorry for her. Will also be trying the B12 lets us know if it works.

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