Constantly whinging 4 yr DS morning til night

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He never stops. Constantly and about everything. He refuses to go to sleep til between 10-11 pm everynight no matter how early i get him up so i think this is a contributing factor.

Ive tried ignoring him and removing him from the situation but it makes things worse.

Any advice apart from gaggin him ?

no advice here, but my ds1 is a pita too.... he is 3.5, he has always been like that but we have reached new height recently...

sorry, im not helpful, just wanted to say you are not alone!!

i try to explain him that if he wants something he has to speak with his "man voice" (like daddy, his hero) not with his "baby voice" (which is not baby voice at all more like a very irritating whinging cow's noise... mmmwwwaaaahhhhh!!!!!! mumble mumble mumble mmmwwwahhh, throw himself on the floor, mmmwwwaaaahhh again...)
it is somewhat working, he will now speak a little bit louder instead of mumbling what he wants/needs. at nursery they say "use your words" and i do ask him too.

as soon as he starts whinging, we try (when we have time and the other two DCs are ok) to replay the situation with him expressing himself with his man voice (i do it first, then he has to do it too, properly, looking into my eyes).

it is hard, it really pushes me to the limit of sanity. just now, after two awful days, im tryng to relax and resource myself to be able to cope with tonight. chocolate and coffee are not enough to help me cope.... if you have any tips, im a taker

My mum has rescued me this aft and borrowed him for the night, he'll not be like that there! Where on earth do they get it from? Its bad enough when he goes into baby speak mode! Ive started whining back at him but it made it worse.

We need to invent some kind of anti whinge sonic sensor like what you put in your garden to deter cats

Wow, that's a late bedtime for a 4yo. What is he doing till that time? Could it just be that he is overtired? Has he started school yet?

Have a read of this by Dr Sears .

Argh the baby voice!

It drives me completely bananas.

DD1 is 4 and goes to bed at 8pm. I don't think it's overtiredness in her case.

Just a natural need to whinge.

He just fannys around. We all go to bed at 8.30 so he'll go to bed but hes in and out of our room, jumping on beds the usual stuff. Even when we pretend to be asleep hes still bloody at it. Ive sent him up to bed at various times (6, 7pm) and it didnt work. Thanks for the link i shall have a read of that. The dr wrote in his notes childhood insomnia and referred us back to the paed. He eats like a sparrow and is rather hyper so i think its all linked.

My ears are ringing now through the silence!

Sorry JJJ he starts in September so im hoping that'll sort him. Hes finished nursery now til then so if it stays dry out the bouncy castle will be out!

Well it could be all linked, but there are some things you can do in the meantime, while you are waiting for the appointment. What do you do when he comes into your room, do you take him back each time straightaway? I know it can be difficult, our DS went to bed fine but then never slept through till he was 5 [grr].

Know too that you've probably read everything going but just wondered if you'd seen this book? We had some success with it.

As for the eating, have you tried smaller meals more often? Our DD won't eat big meals 3 times a day but is quite happy to have smaller meal more regularly. Haven't read this book but heard so many good things about it, it should be worth checking out .

As for the whining, if mine do it I just tell them that I'll talk to them when they talk properly and then ignore them till they do .

I give him baby size portions now still on the same size plates. We put him back in his room each time but he still appears.

In the mean time til we go back to the hospital ill just carry on. Its in October so its not too far away!

Thanks for the links, i shall have a look.

The first link is for Stoke Museum

Ill see if i can find the other book at the library.

He gets louder and more angry if i ignore him then i end up laughing when he goes into total meltdown. Nasty bad mummy.

Whoops! Oh well, perhaps a day out at the City Museum & Art Gallery might wear him out a bit and if that doesn't work, try this book instead .

I shall look for them both! Thanks

If you like the look of the Stoke Museum link, you could always have a weekend away in Staffordshire, do one day at Alton Towers and a day doing pot painting at Emma Bridgewater and a visit to the Museum. That should wear the little blighter out .

Op - mine too. He's just turned 5. Moans at bloody everything. Never wants to do anything, go anywhere. Might enjoy something for 5 min before he's off again. It wears us down and takes the fun out of e erythin

Mine is 7 and it is killing my relationship with him. At my wits end so any advice for older kids too greatly appreciated

bullet and rosy haven't got any advice sorry, just wanted to sympathise. Hope someone comes along soon with some more experience or help .

Mine too - she is 3.7 and it drives me crazy.

She dropped her daytime nap at 2.1. I know she is whiny because she is tired but she wont give in. So I spend the afternoons after preschool treading on egg shells, trying to keep her entertained and avoiding pulling my hair out.

Vaga it can be really tough, can't it. Did you have a read of the askdrsears link above?

I think ear defenders and a whistle is the way forward for us all. Bet the little monkeys are the perfect children for nanas and g.dads?

JJJ were only in Manc so not too far away!

Having a moan on here helps! we'll all be in some whinge pots support group for mithered mothers soon.