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I am at the end of my tether withDS2 (4) and last night autism was suggested

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mixedmamameansbusiness · 19/07/2012 11:09

He is lovely, social and very funny and cuddly.

He also is very stubborn and will only do things he wants to when he wants to.

He will decide walking down the road for example that he wants me to walk with my hand behind my back, often the way I do it is not correct and he gets very upset and stamps feet etc, I often refuse to do it then we have a full blown tantrum that even giving in doesnt solve. This happens at least once a day over various issues.

These things never happen with DH. DH when around does have a different more shouty way of dealing with things when he witnesses which reprimands DS2 but he still will not back down from his position.

He will not give in to any kind of reward bribery or punishment. He doesnt care if he gets sent to bed, gets no pocket money etc. He doesnt care if he is promised a magazine/chocolate or equivalent.

At nursery they cannot say enough nice things about him and have only witnessed this behaviour with me when picking up etc.

He is only behaving this way with me. Occasionally other adults he might get away with, my mum and dad perhaps, but even they usually get him to come around with bribery or a compromise (not advocating but this doesnt work for me).

It has come to head, when we went out yesterday and he was under the table, not eating, climbing, trying to get his brothers jacket and allowing himself to be dragged along the floor as DS1 tried to get away (he was holding onto the jacket).

I do have 3 DS, one is just 18 months and the other 6. DS1 is very quiet and really listens and looks after himself well, DS3 is very loud and attention seeking in a being a baby sort of way.

My thought are:

  1. middle child and craving attention; I do try really hard to do this. I make an effort to spend one to one time with him and encourage his interests. We do lots together. He mostly behaves this way when with others, particularly like when we were out with people yesterday. We cant not go out with people forever.
  1. His age, a lot of transition is going on and development, reception in Sept etc. Although he has sort of always been like this, it has just really got me down recently.
  1. There is something actually amiss that I need to address. The person I was out with yesterday suggested autism - however the fact that his behaviour is not like this everywhere suggests otherwise. I am also worried that my brother behaved very similarly as a child, would not back down and could be left sitting on a pavement and would never follow and now suffers with schizophrenia which first presented itself to us in compulsive repetitive behaviour.

I have spoken to lots of my mum friends who have witnessed him and most (a couple are teachers who I imagine can spot things sometimes) all think that it is far more personality related and have offered various strategies but nothing works.

Sorry for the long post, but please if you have any advice I would greatly appreciate it.

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LadySybildeChocolate · 19/07/2012 11:15

Children this age go through a shitty stage where they test the boundaries. It doesn't mean that they are autistic or on the spectrum. Have you tried speaking to your HV? I'd have a look at this though

mixedmamameansbusiness · 19/07/2012 11:33

That is very useful thank you. He does display some of those things, he does make friends easily and acheives well so those are the only two areas he doesnt seem to fit.

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LadySybildeChocolate · 19/07/2012 11:37

It's worthwhile asking your HV. Some children can be very hard work at either home or school. They know what they want and don't have the maturity to be able to deviate. It doesn't mean that they are autistic, they are just stong willed.

LadySybildeChocolate · 19/07/2012 11:37

Strong rather.

Notgrownupinmyhead · 19/07/2012 11:43

This sound exactly like my ds1. Cant offer advice just un mnety hugs. Our Dr has the HV involved so hopefully they can suggest something not tried. I know how frustrating this is for you. Have you tried the Sure Start centre? Some of them run classes about childrens behaviour and how to deal with it.

Hope you get it sorted!

AmberLeaf · 19/07/2012 11:47

My son is autistic.

You don't have to 'fit' all of the symptoms/characteristics to have it. My son can be very sociable and is also very bright. His behavior can also seem different in different places sometimes he will turn his frustrations in on himself other times they will show outwardly that can be an explanation for the contrast in behavior.

Speak to your GP and ask for a referal or your HV. Depending on the area you live in some local health authorities have speech and language therapy drop in clinics which can be a good chance to see what they think and get refered on to a paediatrician for assessment if they think its necessary.

amillionyears · 19/07/2012 11:48

Do you believe in smacking?

mixedmamameansbusiness · 19/07/2012 11:57

AmberLeaf that is very useful too, thank you.

Re: smacking. I don't really but have tried Blush. It doesn't work either. He still will not back down.

DH insists he is just strong-willed. He read the link posted below and said straight away that isnt DS2.

Thank you ladies, this is very helpful though. Strategies clearly need changing, but it is finding something that works particularly as what worked last time may not work this time.

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olibeansmummy · 19/07/2012 16:32

In my completely unqualified opinion it doesn't sound like autism at all. People seem to be determined to diagnose autism for any 'abnormal' behaviours these days. If he only behaves like this for you, then he obviously can control his behaviour. There's nothing wrong with speaking to your hv though to get advice on how to deal with his behaviours, but I wouldn't suggest autism to any professionals as you don't want to lead them into anything, just describe his behaviours matter of factly.

bruffin · 19/07/2012 16:43

Have you investigated Oppositional Defiant Disorder

AmberLeaf · 19/07/2012 18:13

I doubt very much that any professionals would be 'led' into anything.

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