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DS keeps telling me to "shut up"

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BertieBotts · 09/07/2012 21:55

He's only 3.9 - it's when I ask him to do something he doesn't want to do or sometimes just when he doesn't want me to talk to him. He just says "You shut up!" in this horrible aggressive way. I think it must be something he's picked up from somewhere as he's never normally aggressive, he sometimes says "Stop asking me!" or something like that, but I hate this.

When he does it I tell him it's rude and that I don't want to hear him talk to me like that and have stopped playing with him or refused to pass him something he's asking for or whatever the situation is, saying "I don't want to do that for you if you're going to say horrible things to me". Anything stronger seems like an overreaction - will he just stop it, do you think, or am I being way too soft? He seems to be doing it to get a reaction, sometimes he kind of giggles afterwards like he knows he's said something naughty. So I'm thinking not providing with attention and keeping reinforcing that it's not a nice thing to say.

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EdithWeston · 09/07/2012 22:00

Yes, it sounds like he is trying out aggressive behaviour.

Your approach sounds fine - if he never gets a payoff for his aggression, he's more likely to desist. I think a (bored sounding) 'don't speak like that. Let me know when you're ready to ask nicely' as an invariable response should take the edge off pretty quickly. You may need to take the time at the start to model examples of what is the nice way to speak.

ChippingInNeedsCoffee · 09/07/2012 22:04

I'd do what you are doing for a little longer, but if it doesn't stop soon then I'd step up the 'consequence'. Either make him go and sit somewhere boring until he's 'prepared to be nice' or lose a priviledge etc - he's definitely old enough for that kind of thing.

exoticfruits · 09/07/2012 22:17

I would be tougher from the start. I wouldn't let anyone say that to me-children included. I would get down down to his level-look him in the eye and tell him firmly that I never say that to anyone and he is not saying it to me. He will carry on doing it while you let him get away with it.

scotgirl · 09/07/2012 22:19

Hi my 4 years has found a way round this. He shouts "Shut Down" at me!! Crafty bugger.....

BertieBotts · 09/07/2012 22:52

Thanks all. The problem with me saying I never say it to people is that I do say it to him Blush not all the time, occasionally if he's making a really annoying and loud noise and hasn't stopped after being asked several times, has followed me into another room to keep making it etc and I'm getting very frustrated.

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exoticfruits · 10/07/2012 07:35

I'm afraid that DCs will do as you do and not as you say. My method won't work if you say it - even young DCs are quick to spot hypocrisy.

BlueberryPancake · 10/07/2012 14:15

I would be quite strict about that. Make it a clear rule and stick to it. Think of a punishment that you think will work (taking a toy away for one day, reduced tv time, whatever) and make it very clear that this is a rule for the family. If he says shut up, there will be one (or in our case, NO warning). The punishment will be straight away. Reduced TV at bedtime (or in our case, no bedtime TV - my kids watch half an hour of tv before going to bed), or take one specific toy and put it on the fridge. After two or three attempts at saying Shut up, he will get it.

My kids didn't say shut up, but they started having more rude language, like 'go away' or 'you're stupid' - to each other or to us. The no bedtime tv rule worked within a few goes.

exoticfruits · 10/07/2012 19:23

If you are going to be strict the first thing to do is tell him 'that mummy won't say it either'. You really can't punish him for something that you do. I would tell him that it isn't something that is very nice to say to anyone and that you will both agree not to do it.

candr · 11/07/2012 21:34

Explain that he will get a time out (or other suitable punishment) each time he says it and he will catch on. If he says it to you he may say it to others so explain that it is not nice to say to people. I do not allow 'shut up' or 'your stupid' with any of the children I work with and they all get the message quite quickley.
Agree with Exoticfruits, you must not say it either.

BertieBotts · 11/07/2012 21:48

He seems to have stopped it now, actually. (Sod's law as soon as I ask for advice!) He's moved onto "shush" which isn't completely better but I don't mind that as long as he ditches the tone.

I don't say it a lot - probably once every few months. Plus it's not a conscious thing, it's more reaching the end of my tether, losing control kind of thing.

Thanks for your advice though.

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exoticfruits · 11/07/2012 22:20

Just bear in mind for the future that anything that you say or do will be copied! Grin

BertieBotts · 11/07/2012 22:27

I know :) That's my main strategy - to model what I want! Hence I try really hard not to say things I think are unacceptable.

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