PLEASE: Any ideas for teaching patience/not asking for every toy they see on adverts/not growling + shouting/speaking in a normal 'volume' voice/stop constantly eating (kids 4 and 3)

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What do you do/have done that works?! They are driving me bonkers.

4yr old: Speaks SO loudly all the time. Cannot WAIT for anything. Cannot play alone.

Can they 'comfort eat' at this age? All they seem to do is eat once home from nursery where they've just had lunch?!

How do you teach patience? (Apart from being patient yourself).

Is an ice lolly daily an OK 'treat'?!

Neither of them let me talk to anyone......when I drop off/pick up from nursery, 3yr old drags me round 'Mummymummymummy', even when repeatedly told 'I am talking' etc.....neither of them is seemingly to learn this....same if I'm in the park...

Speaks loudly - I know it sounds daft but have you had his ears checked? Play games when he has to talk loudly, then quietly, books like What the Ladybird heard could help. He needs to learn how to make the difference between loud and quiet, and you can have your own special secret code word to remind him to speak quietly. We use the word Sausages in my house. If they shout or speak loudly, I just say 'sausages' its our secret code word to tell them they are speaking too loudly. They think it's hilarious and I don't sound like a broken record saying no all the time.

I don't have much experience for the nursery thing, but I know that the children I look after (childminder) and some of the children say to their parent 'i'm hungry' as soon as parent walks in. I feel bad about it becuase I do feed children very good healthy portions and snacks, but some kids get parents' attention that way, also they can sometimes get a treat from the parents, which I find a bit difficult to manage tbh. They don't get haribos at my house and as soon as the parent walks through the door they get sweets, chocolate, etc. anyway, rant over. Yes I think that kids can comfort eat or do it to get attention from parents.

Ask a child to count to 10, or 20, whilst waiting instead of saying 'wait' all the time. Or put the timer on the oven. If you say 'I'll get it in ten minutes' put ten minutes on oven timer so they know you will eventually do it.

Drop off pick up is a tricky one. I have kids here who behave perfectly well all day and as soon as their parents walk through the door they start acting up, having tantrums, don't want to put shoes on, they want all the attention of the parents but sometimes the parent wants to speak to me so it makes things worst. I think that you should have the same routine at every pick up, [ay attention to child first, ask about his day, have a short chat, then talk to nursery staff or someone else. They do interupt it's normal, they have to learn that bit, so be consistent about it.

my dd asks for everything she sees, I say yes, she says when I say one day. thats the end of that, if its something consistent she wants Iand I know she really wants something I get her to put in on her birthday/christmas list.

she also eats all day long I make sure a clear hour is left before a main meal other wise she wont eat that, she has a smart price icelolly or icepole most days.

she has 2 volume settings loud and louder, I ignore alot of the interupting if it gets intollearble I send her away or place her away, untill I manage to get to finish my converstaion.

I solved the advert asking, by never letting my DSs (3,5 and 9) watch tv channels with adverts on and rarely take them near a shop with toys...

In terms of learning patience I give a very specific time frame for when I will do something (and make sure I stick to it) e.g. "I will make you a juice when I have filled the dishwasher, as my hands are too dirty at the moment from holding the dirty plates". If they keep asking I ask them "Is the dishwasher loaded?" "No" "then you will have to wait a little longer, I'm half way there now"

They know that i will stick to my word to do the requested thing, and if I forget then they are allowed to tell me and I will immediately stop what I am doing and sort it for them.

Yeah I got fed with the constant hungry thing, so set up definite snack times and then said cafe's closed til next meal time.

We also dont have telly just watch iplayer/dvds solves that problem.

The constant whining thing is annoying but I think you just have to be consistent and be a stuck record back like post above says yes when i've ...

The hardest thing is to stick to your guns without losing your rag and that when you say no you mean no, if you waver they learn that wearing you down works as I have learnt! Difficult.

we solved the asking for things on the TV thing by saying we will add it to the it and when you have some birthday/christmas money you can buy it yourself. There is no list and they have always forgotten they ever wanted it by time birthday/christmas comes around.