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behaviour chart at school. Am I asking too much of ds' teachers?

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shoppingbagsundereyes · 21/03/2012 19:45

have copied and pasted from SEN as no replies and could do with some opinions before I go into school tomorrow.
Ds(nearly 6) has aspergers and lately we've been having lots of problems at school, particularly since the school withdrew his TA support due to lack of funding. We agreed at the last meeting at school that his teacher would let me know every day if he had managed to stay on 'green cloud' or had been moved down to yellow or red (red is considered a serious incident). The teacher made a tick sheet. The idea is that we can support the school in withdrawing privileges such as computer time if he hasn't behaved appropriately or reward him for a particularly good week.
This lasted for 3 days. Day 4 and 5 the sheet was empty. Monday - wednesday this week no sheet at all. This afternoon a sheet came home. Monday was green, Tuesday was red and today is green. I am furious, I have no idea what ds did to be put on red yesterday. He can't remember because it was yesterday (genuinely can't remember, not just unwilling to tell me) and now there is no point in me taking away his computer time as it will detract from today's green day. And I don't know what he did wrong so wouldn't be able to have a meaningful discussion with him about it.
So am I asking too much for a teacher to tick a sheet every day? I don't know how else I can support their management of his behaviour. I have a prearranged meeting at school tomorrow and intend to rant a bit so need to know if I'm asking too much? (as in teachers are incredibly busy etc etc)

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ThreeLittlePandas · 21/03/2012 19:49

You are not asking too much at all. I've worked in reception and ks1 at various times and what you are asking would have been no trouble at all and actually encouraged.

ThreeLittlePandas · 21/03/2012 19:51

In fact I would go as far as to say they are seriously letting your ds down. This is something that was agreed at a meeting, they need to implement it.

shoppingbagsundereyes · 21/03/2012 19:53

I'm trying so hard but feel like I can't get anywhere with the senco who is also his class teacher. She says all the right things but then nothing happens.

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insanityscratching · 21/03/2012 20:03

Have you requested a statutory assessment (assuming you are in England)? That way you would have a means of legally ensuring the support ds needs was provided. I have two with autism and both have statements, ds was at primary very challenging but tbh sanctions at school stayed at school much the same as school wouldn't have become involved with behaviour at home. My feeling is that you probably have enough to battle over at home without taking on school's battles and I was never comfortable with punishing ds on someone else's interpretation of his behaviour.

shoppingbagsundereyes · 21/03/2012 20:10

I think you may be right. Ds' behaviour at home is improving all the time. We haven't requested an assessment yet because I'm pretty sure school haven't kept sufficient records to show his problems. They also haven't sought any outside agency help for him which I believe is a precursor to statutory assessment. I have asked them to get in touch with the ed pysch and the lea aspergers advisor. Tomorrow is to chase them up.

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insanityscratching · 21/03/2012 20:20

Ds is pretty much delightful now in and out of school whereas he was at five described as having extreme challenging behaviour. We have rewarded all the way, as did school mostly and it seems to have worked. Requesting a statutory assessment would bring in all the professionals without you having to chase school IME.

insanityscratching · 21/03/2012 20:24

Mine had statements in place before nursery so didn't have to rely on schools as they had only been at home. Knowing how schools vary in experience and ability makes me really thankful that I never had to rely on schools to contribute to their statutory assessment tbh.

crazynell · 22/03/2012 00:22

my job is to help teachers to advise and support class teachers to come up with strategies for supporting pupil's behaviour etc and NO it isn't too much to expect the teacher to keep to this - its what she/he agreed - its their side of the agreed contract i would ask if she can think of any ways that she can ensure that she does this everyday as you aren't able to impose sanctions and rewards at home if you don't have the information from school to do this. Yes, they are busy BUT your child is a member of her class and she needs to provide him with the support to enable him to function most effectively in her class so that he can be part of this class (mention inclusivity and all that)
For example, is there perhaps a sensible pupil who has the job of reminding her to do it every day at a certain time? or can she seek support from someone in a more senior teacher to do this? that will put the wind up her cause she has to own up to not doing her job properly to someone else

Good luck and let us know how you get on - don't let them bully you :)

crazynell · 22/03/2012 00:25

sorry, theres a few extra words at beginning it should read "my job is to advise and support....."

shoppingbagsundereyes · 23/03/2012 11:32

thanks all, have had some great advice from the special needs section of mumsnet too.
We had a meeting yesterday and agreed that I would go into the classroom every day to check the behaviour board and find out for myself what colour ds is on. Is ridiculous that the teacher can't update me herself but at least this way I can find out what I need to know to support ds. I found out yesterday that they have kept no records whatsoever of 'incidents' involving ds so we have no evidence to present should we ask for a statutory assessment. I was aghast. I will ask for a meeting in two weeks to see if anything has been recorded then. Aspergers advisor has cancelled next week's meeting that we have been waiting two months for. I feel trapped - school are totally useless, the SENCO seems genuinely surprised when I ask about things that I think should be standard practice. We are trying to get both children into an independent school but tbh the schools aren't keen because of ds' difficulties. At least if we get him into an independent school we could pay extra for proper TA support.

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