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Worried I'm losing a friend over DD's behaviour, not sure what to do.

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MissPenteuth · 20/03/2012 11:04

Too scared to put this in chat/AIBU and it's partly a behavioural question too. Posted about it a while back but it's still ongoing so I'd like some advice.

DD has a friend the same age as her (both just turned 2yo), and until recently they'd see eachother once or twice a week. DD can be a bit bossy with this girl; taking her by the hand, 'hurrying' her along sometimes, maybe being a bit overenthusiastic in trying to play with her. DD is the only child this other girl really sees on a regular basis, and until recently she didn't really socialise much at all (SAHD wouldn't take her out to things, but now her mum is on maternity leave they get out more). I always just thToo scared to put this in chat/AIBU and it's partly a behavioural question too. Posted about it a while back but it's still ongoing so I'd like some advice.

DD has a friend the same age as her (both just turned 2yo), and until recently they'd see eachother once or twice a week. DD can be a bit bossy with this girl; taking her by the hand, 'hurrying' her along sometimes, maybe being a bit overenthusiastic in trying to play with her. DD is the only child this other girl really sees on a regular basis, and until recently she didn't really socialise much at all (SAHD wouldn't take her out to things, but now her mum is on maternity leave they get out more). I always just thought that DD can be a bit overbearing, other girl is a bit sensitive, but they're both just toddlers and they're learning how to play together I'd always tell DD to play nicely or behave if I thought she was getting a bit pushy.

It came to a head on DD's 2nd birthday when the other girl burst into tears at one point. They were playing with a doctor's set and DD had a pair of tweezers in her hand. They were nowhere near the other girl, but she got very upset and took a long time to calm down. She also got upset twice more on the same occasion, and seemed a bit wary.

Next time we saw eachother her mum mentioned that her DD had said "[my DD's name] push" a few times, including previously to the time she'd gotten so upset. I said that I tell DD off as and when but it doesn't really sink in cos she's so little. Friend just looked at me in a way that said she didn't agree, and I got the impression she doesn't think I'm doing enough to 'correct' DD's behaviour. She had asked me before if my DD had been pushed around by other kids, and that's where she'd picked it up. I said no (because she hasn't, no more than the usual slightly-boisterous playing sometimes that kids are prone to). I didn't say anything but I don't think toddlers necessarily 'pick up' behaviour, they just do what they do and learn along the way.

I left feeling that DD's behaviour and my parenting had been judged and I had a little cry, and I didn't hear from her for a while. She's only been in touch once, to say that they wouldn't be at an event as her DD was ill. I understand that maybe her DD doesn't want to play with my DD if she's a bit wary, and that my friend doesn't want to put her DD in a situation that might upset her, but I feel it's more than that, like she's freezing me out.

Good grief, this is getting long.

Anyway, if you've made it this far: I don't know what to do. I think that friend is being a teeny bit precious, and I think it's unfair of her to label my DD as 'naughty'. All toddlers go through phases; some even hit, push and bite other children, and D has never done any of that. You tell them off firmly, remove them and distract if necessary, and that's all you can do, right? Am I wrong? Punishment just doesn't seem appropriate at their age. I don't want to lose a friend (the only close friend I have locally) but I feel uncomfortable at the idea of her being judgmental about DD when actually she's just being a normal toddler imo.

Do I reach out to her, ask if everything's ok between us? Tell her how I feel that she's wrong about DD? Also, I wonder if her DD actually needs to socialise more to get used to other children who aren't always as shy and retiring as she is, so cutting out the only regular 'friendship' she has might even be detrimental. Should I say that to my friend?

Also, just so as not to be accused of drip-feeding if it comes up later, friend has a 2mo baby and I'm 11w pregnant. So she's tired and I'm hormonal, and she might also be sensitive about going back to work in a few months and leaving DD again after spending her maternity leave with her, which I know she's really enjoying, so she could be extra-protective of DD for that reason.

Gah. Anyone still with me? WWYD?

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MissPenteuth · 20/03/2012 11:05

Whoops, somehow posted first paragraph twice. Cos it wasn't quite long enough already Hmm

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Bibbob · 20/03/2012 11:09

She does sound a bit over protective but there's not much you can do. It is a stage. My sister is going through the same although it's her child on the receiving end. Can you try to see her without kids and try and keep the adult friendship going?

pepperrabbit · 20/03/2012 11:11

Hmm. I think I might suggest to her that we meet maybe at a toddler/play group so there are plenty of other children around and they don't have to exclusively play with each other? You could then have a chat with the mum without worrying what may happen if you aren't watching 110% of the time (which is exhausting).
I'm not sure, it is difficult. Perhaps she is also worried that with her new baby she has less time to be eagle eyed and wants a quiet life? Rightly or wrongly, maybe in a couple of months she'll reappear. Could she have PND (as opposed to PFB!)

bigTillyMint · 20/03/2012 11:11

It sounds like you are doing the right thing with your DD and that her DD maybe has a less confident personality - reading on, it sounds like her mum is similar in personality? The mum may also parent differently to you and that may affect how her DD/she react.

Could you suggest meeting up without children, or you go round to visit on your own? It would be a shame to lose the friendship because of a clash between the girls, whether it is due to personality or parenting. It may be that they get on better as they get older, and more used to coping with different personalities.

MissPenteuth · 20/03/2012 11:29

I could possibly meet her by myself, but should I mention the issue with our DDs? I feel it might be the elephant in the room if I don't say something.

Also, I have texted her once to ask how her DCs were feeling (they'd been ill). She replied but hasn't been in touch since. I feel that I've 'reached out' once and don't want to push it in case she doesn't want to see me for whatever reason.

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mmmerangue · 20/03/2012 11:31

My little boy is very easy come easy go and at mums & toddlers there is a girl who is a bit bigger and very boisterous around him - she wants to be friends but just gets a bit rough sometimes - sounds like your friend is on my end of the stick but handling it differently!

I choose to let him be boistered around a little bit, he needs to learn to stand up for himself, unless the bigger girl is very rough, in which case I or her childminder who brings her tells her clearly to be gentle/give him back the toy (she is a grabber rather than pusher).

Which friendship concerns you most? If you want to stay friends with the mum can you have time together without DDs? Or are you more friends so your DDs can be friends? if the latter I would say if the other girl does not enjoy the rough play, leave it in the hands of the other mother, let her know that you would still like to meet up when she thinks her daughter is ready. Going to playgroup together may help too, as both can become more sociable and learn that different kids have different boundaries.

IWillOnlyEatBeans · 20/03/2012 13:47

Your post struck a chord with me, but I am coming at it from the other side! My DS (2.1) is very quiet, shy and sensitive and does not like a lot of attention/contact from other children (especially confident ones who terrify him!)

Most of my friends DC are the exact opposite, so I often feel a bit awkward in social situations, as DS responds so differently to their DC - getting upset over things which the other children brush off or take in their stride. So my friends end up having to 'discipline' their DC for their behaviour towards my DS, whereas the same behaviour does not need to be kept in check around the other children (if that makes any sense??)

If my friends had any issues with this, I'd much prefer them to talk to me about it, than lose their friendship. I think I am a bit guilty of withdrawing from them sometimes, just because DS's sensitivity can get me down a bit and I worry when I see how different he is to other children his age. Sometimes it's easier to play at home or go to anonymous groups where I don't know anyone, as then I don't feel like me and DS 'stick out' so much (ie me having to play with him/intervene every five seconds, while my friends all sit around laughing and chatting).

Sorry, this has turned into a bit of an essay!

I guess what I am saying is - please persevere with your friend. If she has a new baby to cope with on top of a sensitive DD, then she is probably struggling a bit and may have said things (out of tiredness or thoughtlessness) which she did not mean.

MissPenteuth · 20/03/2012 13:57

Essay Beans? Did you not see how long my opening post was? Wink

Thankyou for the replies, and for the opposite perspectives. Both friendships are important to me I think; I get on really well with the mum (until now, anyway), and I think it's nice for DD to have someone her own age to see frequently, as long as they get on reasonably well anyway.

Somewhat spurred on by this thread, I've emailed my friend. I've explained why I feel her judgment of my DD is a bit unfair, I've said that I think it's good for them to socialise (generally, not necessarily just with eachother), and that I'd like to meet again, either now or in the future, with or without the DDs. I hope I haven't made it worse (feel nervous every time I check my inbox - no reply yet).

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