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HELP, she's rolling already!

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expatinscotland · 02/02/2006 12:15

DD2 is 8 weeks old on Sat. She sleeps in her Moses basket right next to our bed. This morning, I woke to find her sleeping on her side! She'd rolled that way. She's been able to roll onto her side whilst awake for a week or so now.

I'm terrified of cot death and she's always been placed on her back to sleep.

Is she now at increased risk of SIDS?

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expatinscotland · 02/02/2006 12:18

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beatie · 02/02/2006 13:43

Can she roll back again?

I actually put dd2 (now 4m) to sleep on her side (half swaddled) for the first two months. I hadn't then heard the advice not to put babies to sleep on their sides.

brimfull · 02/02/2006 13:45

god,I put ds to sleep on his side all the time..he slept much better that way.

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expatinscotland · 02/02/2006 15:54

No, she can't roll back. She'll usually wake up, though, b/c she can't roll back and it makes her angry.

She was majorly on her side this morning, too.

I hope she'll be okay. I was floored when I woke up and found her like that. I rolled her right back over onto her back.

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nannyme · 02/02/2006 17:52

Of course. Therefore you must sellotape her rigid to the mattress.

Sorry, hope this was not too sarcastic for you expat but I thought that if you could smile about it then you might be able to relax about it too.

Things like smoking, etc. come far higher up the risk list than the position stuff. Also nobody really knows why this position helps as far as I am aware so it may not be the actual position but something associated with it. So confusing but I really would not worry enormously about it.

nannyme · 02/02/2006 18:05

I know from other posts of yours that you have other issues that basically render you on the anxious side of things, but look at this way:

Even if she is at more of a risk, what would you do anyway? You cannot really sellotape her to the mattress so you may just have to resign yourself to fate on this one.

You cannot avoid stepping out of the house for fear of unmetionable tragedy. I know we all like to have ago at trying to control the things we CAN control but you have to know to stop trying and recognise the things that are beyond our control or you, me, everybody would go nuts!

This is where OCD stems from, trying to gain some control when you feel you do not have any. I recognise this in myself and it helps to deal with situations or outcomes I fear.

Wills · 02/02/2006 18:09

dd2 was rolling about the same time. She could roll onto her side but couldn't roll onto her front. Like you I worried myself silly but the HV said that if she were strong enough to roll that way then she would be strong enough to roll back and once they can do that there is absolutely no problem. She actually took quite a bit longer to roll onto her front. She just liked rolling onto her side. She's 2.5 years now.

Also as far as I was aware this is nothing wrong with rolling onto their side. I thought that the sleeping on their backs was incase they're sick but a baby that can roll is strong enough to move away so even if she does manage all the way over it means that she's strong and that is not something to worry over.

Hope that helps - but have felt exactly like you.

jane313 · 02/02/2006 18:28

you can buy some weird things that keeps them on their back. A bit like two rolls and a piece of fabric in between. I remember watching an epsiode of the babywhisperer when she made one out of 2 rolled towels.

Could you tuck her blankets in very tight?

jane313 · 02/02/2006 18:38

Here I knew I had seen one in one of those expensive catalogues bloomingexpensive

not sure about it making them overheat though

jane313 · 02/02/2006 18:42

and another one
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Mercy · 02/02/2006 18:44

dd could do this too at the same age - until we put her into a sleeping bag.

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expatinscotland · 02/02/2006 21:10

Excuse me, nanny, but my depression is under control now, thanks to medication. I also don't see anything funny or relaxing about PND, tbh. And I don't have OCD. Never have. Anxiety disorder is different from OCD. I don't feel the need to control my kids from unforseeable circumstances or can't leave the house for fear of their meeting some tragedy.

Thanks for assuming a valid question was the direct result of my mental illness.

DD1 couldn't roll till quite late - she has been late w/nearly all her motor skills - so I was quite surprised to see DD2 roll so early. I mean, she really gets over!

She's in a sleeping bag and can still manage it.

Like the look of those wedge things, tho! Saves her head going flat in back as well. DD1's head is still a bit flat in back. Not very noticeably, tho.

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Aloha · 02/02/2006 21:13

I am sure Nannyme was not being unkind Expat.
And it's fine. Side sleeping is perfectly safe, it's only unsafe if a baby is propped on her side and therefore can fall onto her tummy. Whatever a baby can do by herself is fine. Just continue putting her on her back and try to relax about it.

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expatinscotland · 02/02/2006 21:17

She doesn't usually go down till around 2-3AM, so by that point I fall straight to sleep w/o a second thought. DH takes her most nights, anyhow, so I don't even know what position she's in during the night.

She is doing everything faster than DD1, so it goes to follow she rolls already.

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starlover · 02/02/2006 21:20

expat, don't worry too much! we had to put ds on his side almost from birth due to breathing difficulties... all the midwives said it was fine,. as long as i made sure he wou;dn't roll onto his tummy

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expatinscotland · 02/02/2006 21:22

she'd wake up on her tummy, probably. she HATES tummy time. i've been putting her on her tummy when she's awake a bit, b/c in baby massage we're doing tummies next week. she still hasn't gotten used to it, tho, and goes tomato red on her tummy and shrieks for scotland. she's getting better, tho.

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FeelingIsolated · 02/02/2006 21:23

I used to put DS to sleep on his side. Would never ever sleep on his back. He's fine (and has a perfectly shaped head too! )

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expatinscotland · 02/02/2006 21:24

her head's sooo round! some of the midwives even thought she was a c-section baby, her head was so round.

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starlover · 02/02/2006 21:31

ditto! everyone kept commenting on his lovely head and asking if i had a c-section.. in fact he was ventouse!!!

roll up a towel beside her, or put a blanket over her quite tight and that way she can't get onto her tummy.

if she is regularly sleeping on her side you may as well put her down on her side as it's easier to "secure" them then! lol

nannyme · 03/02/2006 02:14

I think I may have to give up posting on forums. In real life I get no end of comments on how approachable and non judgemental I am which is why I am finding doing what I do (helping parents) so rewarding.

God, something just gets lost with me in the translation between my head and my keyboard.

Sorry expat you interpreted my post exactly the opposite to how I intended it, I thought you would smile and feel a bit relieved. I have read a lot of your posts and felt frustrated that you didn't live next door so that I could just pop in and reassure you as a lot of the time you have come across as needing that more than you need practical advice. In fact, in one post about your little one having a cold you almost said that.

Anyway, I wouldn't criticise anyone directly on here. And in this case there isn't anything to criticise anyway so please don't think I was being mean.

Aloha was right.

Maybe you could read my post again with my true intentions in mind and see my sense of humour in what I typed.

I think I need to photograph myself as I write and add it to all my posts so that people 'get' me like they do in real life.

Fcuk, bum, bother, SORRY!

nannyme · 03/02/2006 02:18

And just in case you don't believe me and think I am just back-pedalling wildly, I will tell you that I live with my dear partner who has suffered so badly with depression that he spent 3 months in hospital. Don't think I'd be here with him if I was the kind of person who took a negative or critical view of anybody suffering with any form of mental ill health. And the OCD ref was not an inference that you had OCD. Please re-read and you will see that.

stairs · 03/02/2006 03:08

My DS was exactly the same, and had perfected rolling onto his tummy by 10 weeks..which had me in bits too, as he did it all night. I phoned the SIDS helpdesk though, and she basically said that if he could do it on his own I should give up worrying. She said to put him on his back to start with, and then not worry. Apparently if they are strong enough to do it, they are at less risk anyway. She did say to give them lots of time playing on their tummy to build up their strength too.
Hate to be a killjoy, but she said if they were rolling the in-cot/bed anti-roll stuff (wedge shaped mattresses/bundles etc) were too dangerous to use as they could get into trouble with them. She also said that there was no research that any of this stuff had a positive effect anyway.
I still worry, but what can you do? I spent half an hour crying, turning him back and telling him about the SIDS risk (!), but after 9 times in the space of half an hour I gave up sobbing... In fact, I think this turned it into a game and made him roll more! Speaking to the woman at the SIDS desk helped me feel better though...have you thought of ringing them?
HTH..

dollybird · 06/02/2006 21:20

I know this isn't exactly relevant, but a friend of mine's dd rolled off a bed (ie over & over) at 2m old!Some babies are just like that - they don't keep still - she's still like it now at 3.8.

threelittlebabies · 06/02/2006 22:19

Just seen this expat, am sure you feel reassured about the side thing now, but just to tell you that dd was also doing that from around 8 weeks old. Is she petite by any chance? Dd rolled over last week for the first time and is very active and mobile, which I think has a lot to do with her being petite. Also was once told by HV with my ds that if they can move themselves around then it's ok.

HTH

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expatinscotland · 06/02/2006 22:21

Now, she's a wee stoater! She's 11lbs and she was born just 6lbs., 9oz. She's also long. She's been cooing away, smiling and batting her toys. And rolling, rolling, rolling. She rolls as soon as you lay her down to change her nappy and cheeses away whilst she's doing it.

It's SO cute! She bats my hair as it hangs down as I change her.

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