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DS1 is VERY spirited - Normal and how to deal?

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angel1976 · 18/02/2012 22:43

My DS1 is 4 in a few days, he is an absolutely gorgeous boy. We love him to death. His good points are: everyone loves him, he's a real charmer and knows how to make you feel very special (he is physically very affectionate and would give hugs and kisses even if he is meeting you for the first time), he is really willing to try stuff (he will be first up on stage and is not afraid of anything! Even snakes...) and he is very sensitive (we try not to show him any Ice Age trailers, he cries when that 'squirrel' gets hurt). But boy, he can be a right pain and we don't know how we can deal with him without shouting, or threats so if anyone has a similar child, help!

He has to touch everything and cannot sit still, he drives us mad. It's like he has ZERO impulse control. Give him a piece of paper, he will tear it up and then wants another one. He is constantly on the move and will not sit still. If we walk past a wall, he will have to run his fingers/palm on it. If there's a puddle, he will jump in it. If there's sand, he will not only play in it but he will roll in it and bury himself in it. If there are buttons, he will press it and press it and press them till they damn well break. He will knock drinks over, constantly. He has a very short attention span. He's the sort of boy that will fall off the escalator because he cannot stand still on the bloody step. He will not stand still to get his pyjamas on. He constantly asks questions, he talks all day. It's mummy this and mummy that a billion times a day, he can hardly play by himself. God, I feel tired just typing all that!

That is all fine. I think a lot of it is down to personality. He is very spirited, has been since birth (cried nonstop for the first 6 months, I almost went mad!). But there are certain things he does that makes us (me and DH) see red and we just can't see an effective way to deal with it. For example, no matter how much we tell him NOT to do something, he will go ahead and do it. The bath is a constant battle, we tell him not to splash too much in the bath (if we left him to it, the whole bathroom will be soaking wet!). He will do so upsetting his brother (who is 2.3) and tonight, he made his Dad so angry as he spat a mouthful of water onto DH's trousers. He constantly winds his brother up. For example, if they are both in their car seats, he will have one hand on his brother's seatbelt and DS2 will get upset and he will just keep on doing it till DS2 is screaming and I'm screaming at him to stop. :( We went through a park today and it is wet, he got himself soaking wet scootering straight into puddles and all despite us telling him not to.

We use the naughty step with him and it works. We can discipline him and he is sorry afterwards. He was upset today after DH got mad about getting wet and his first question was 'Am I still a good boy?' The battle is to stop him doing it the next time. I feel like my whole life is one long battle trying to get him to stop doing something. I've tried to be less negative and also tried to pick my battles but it is so hard at times. When he behaves, we have really nice days. He can be a very kind boy and also very loving, he constantly tells me all day how much he loves me. DS2 is a different kettle of fish altogether... I'm not sure what I am asking, just if anyone has a child like that and found a particular parenting method that works well. I am sick of me telling him how naughty he is and making threats. I know it's not working particularly well! I want to be a better parent! I was hoping that once he turned 4, things might get better but had a BAD day today... Help! And Thanks.

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angel1976 · 19/02/2012 20:23

So everyone has stories but no magic solution? We are up s**t creek without a paddle then... Grin Oh well, this thread has cheered me up anyway!

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Soccermom2 · 19/02/2012 20:41

I was just thinking that, Bar one recommendation of a book, there is no solution!

Hopefully someone will come on with some advise. It is so good to know others have 'spirited' kids too. Ds2 isnt as much of a messer but my god the child never stops whining, It drives me mad! I dont know which is worse the messing or the whining!

onanightlikethis · 19/02/2012 20:42

I have the same- ds 1 quiet, thinker type. Ds 2 over the top articulate, clever boy. He's so much fun to be around- does the opposite of what u tell him. The older one is very handsome but it's the younger one whom is more popular.

shockers · 19/02/2012 21:03

He sounds just like my DS2!!

At around the age of 4, we decided that his energy needed channelling so we introduced him to sport. Football and swimming at first, then anything he seemed interested in. He is still aged 11, sport mad, and I think the physical activity helps him to focus his mind too.

He continues to be affectionate, in fact he will still reach for my or Dh's hand when out, loves to be hugged and articulates his feelings for us loudly and regularly Grin.

He is also enthusiastic about school and does really well academically.

I often wonder if he would be as confident and sensible now if we hadn't encouraged his sporting side. He needed to use all that energy in a positive way!

clare40 · 21/02/2012 09:32

Sounds just like my 4yr ds.......not much advice I'm afraid as I struggle with it. Just wanted to let you know you are not alone!

angel1976 · 21/02/2012 10:13

Thanks clare40. DH and I were just discussing last night about how exhausted we are dealing with DS1... Argh!

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DrFish · 21/02/2012 10:58

Another one with a spirited DS! Mine is almost 9. I could write pages about him, positive and....hmm....

The only advice I can give you is to stay 100% firm on the important boundaries, whatever you decide they are. My DS has been pushing against boundaries all his life, but I would say that now, he knows that we will not cave. I have a friend with a similar boy and for various reasons they have not established boundaries, and this one little boy now rules an entire household of 6 people. My friend is constantly on edge waiting to see what he will do next, and cannot control his behaviour at all. I have other dc and I know that this kind of firm approach is not required with all dcs, but with some it really is.

The rest of the time we try to leave him alone as much as possible. With the getting wet scenario you described, I would just let my ds get wet. He is picky about clothes, so he chooses what he wears, and I just don't enter into a fight about it. He can choose whether to eat his dinner or not, but nothing else to eat if he doesn't.

Having a ridiculously consistent routine has also helped. If we have a "one off", like tv before homework for example, he will fight and fight the next day to do the same again. Bedtime is 7.30pm, the clock tells him, not me, and he can't argue with the clock.

Soccermom2 · 21/02/2012 20:38

My little monkey wasnt well yesterday and i had to take him to the docs. Normally waiting rooms are a nightmare for me because after about 5 mins he gets bored and starts fiddling with everything and putting on a show (shaking his bum and dancing) fr everyone in the room. Anyway, yesterday two people came up to me and complemented his behaviour, I didnt admit it was because he was sick, for once he sat quietly beside me!

I brought the two boys for a big run in the park first thing this morning and i have to say i saw a big improvement in behavior today.

Agree Drfish spirited dc defo need firm boundaries. I have toughened up over the last few weeks although im still waiting for him to change!

DizzyDancing · 21/02/2012 20:44

This is my DS2! Thank you for this thread - no time to read properly but will be back!

angel1976 · 21/02/2012 21:04

Soccermom2 I hope he feels better soon! The suggestions about exercise and strict routines are spot on. We have to be very strict with DS1 too. He loves the iPad and it's pretty much the only thing that keeps him quiet for a while. We restrict his use to the weekends, usually to kill an hour or two before we go out. While on holiday, he had the iPad pretty much everyday and he's hassled us since every day for it. So now it's NO NO NO NO and what-part-of-NO-did-you-not-understand till we get back to 'routine'. It's so tiring! DS2? One NO and that's it. There is a God, I always said I don't know what I would have done if I had two of DS1s... Yeeks... Shock

I read on another thread about motivators, which is finding out what motivates your children and using it to your best advantage... Two things that motivate DS1 at the moment is money and being 4. He keeps telling me "I can do this because I am 4!" (and usually it's something he cannot do!) so I am now turning it round on its head by telling him that now he is 4, he needs to "do this" or "do that" and it's sort of helping! Also he is obsessed with money so I am going to start giving him 10pence for doing something nice/good! Grin

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Soccermom2 · 21/02/2012 21:48

Thats a great tip about motivators Angel My ds is obsessed wth being a footballer at the mo so will try to work taht to my advantage tomorrow!

Ds2 is only 11 months younger that ds1 and he is going down the same road as ds. I was visiting my dad over the weekend, everything was grand, boys behaving perfectly, were relaxing at kitchen table having a cuppa when my dad just points out the window in shock and there is ds1 and ds2 running down the road! My dads dps grandson (aged 2) was standing at the front door afraid to run out but oh no, not my boys! the two of them were howling laughing while dp and I chased them like ejjits!

naturalbaby · 21/02/2012 22:04

I have a 2 1/2yr old just like this, this thread is great reading!

I'm finding it so, so impossible hard not to say "don't do...." because he really does do it within 20mins.
He refused to walk when we went out this morning then got home and galloped round in circles, singing till he could barely move with exhaustion.

He's such a charmer though. I just need to find something to really channel his energy!

angel1976 · 21/02/2012 22:40

Poor you Soccermom2! DS2 is very obedient but his brother is a BAD influence. Whenever I tell them both NOT to do something, DS1 will then whisper in DS2's ears to do it. Thank goodness DS2 (who may be little but is smart) hardly does what his brother tells him to do.

DS1 turns 4 in 2 days and guess what? He can finally do proper swimming lessons (he is very confident in water, loves water and we worry constantly about him drowning as he is not scared at all, DH has had to dive into pools fully clothed twice already as DS1 just legs it and dives in without even thinking... However, I didn't want to waste my money on 'water confidence' courses for babies as that's one thing he DOESN'T need! LOL!) so I'm hoping to sign him up for one ASAP. Once he actually knows how to swim, I can then take them both swimming as at the moment, I cannot cope with them both at a swimming pool together! :)

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shockers · 21/02/2012 23:18

I would go for a swimming club rather than lessons run by a municipal pool (although clubs use municipal pools, so best to check what you're signing up for). A swimming club will take children from a very young age and train them in the correct stroke... but the best part about a swimming club is the camaradarie and the relationships that are built over the years. There will always be parents and children (but mostly parents!) who see the Olympics as a goal, and good for them... but that's not for everyone. For most, it's just about the discipline of regular training and, if you are committed to regular training, being part of a team with your mates.

shockers · 21/02/2012 23:20

Sorry, that was a bit bossy... I was part of a club, and my children are now. I get all evangelical cos I love it Smile.

angel1976 · 21/02/2012 23:24

How do I find a club (in SE London if that helps!!!)? It's been hard enough trying to find a swimming course to suit DS1's needs... Thanks for the advice.

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shockers · 21/02/2012 23:34

I've just googled your area and there is a website called Swim South East, which is run by the ASA. It will all look at bit OTT as it's talking about championships n stuff, but if there's an email or a phone no., get in touch and they will direct you to your nearest club where there will be lessons for learners at a fraction of the cost of council run schemes.

shockers · 21/02/2012 23:36

My DD who has SN goes to our local club, as well as a club for swimmers with disabilities.

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