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At wits end with DS wetting, embarrassed myself at his nursery crying!

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lydiathetattooedlady · 11/01/2012 19:48

Ds is 2.6yr and goes to nursery full time. At the end of june he started wanting to copy his sister (4) and use the toilet, over a long weekend he was dry and went onto be dry for 8/9 weeks at nursery. Virtual no accidents whatsoever, and the only ones he did have were poo accidents. During this time he also started to become dry at night, we had weekend away and went to an all day wedding, again no accidents.

Since the beginning of sept he has had accidents everyday, but more so at nursery. When it first started we put it down to him moving up to the next age group and leaving some friends behind, and that dd started school. As it continued through sept and got worse we had him tested for water infections which all came back clear. The nursery were good and started stiocker charts and keeping a potty in the room etc but there has been little improvement. His toilet habits at home remained good and we had little to no accidents but he has now started dribbling in his pants, not alot but enough to leak through.

Today i collected him and between 10 and 3 he had 5 wet accidents. I just don't know what to do, i ended up crying at the nursery manager as im so fed up of collecting him and seeing a bag of wet clothes. I'm 100% sure its not through any fault of the staff as i know other parents who are having no problems with their dcs toilet habits. If he hadnt had that long period of dryness through the summer id assume he wasn't ready, plus apart from the odd dribble at home he's dry. He doesnt like wearing nappies and hates having to wear one for bed. I tried asking him why he does it and he says because he's sad, but to be honest i dont know if this is something he's just randomly decided to say.

I dont know if it has anything to do with it but he is becoming increasingly more clingy, and has started to be quite rough in his play towards dd but im guessing this is normal boy behaviour?!

I dont even know what im asking really, maybe some advice or anyone who has been through this??
TIA

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MegBusset · 12/01/2012 11:00

I wouldn't put back in pull-ups either. I'm trying to take the long view that it's the price I'm paying for

MegBusset · 12/01/2012 11:03

Gah iPhone posting early. I am taking the view that since I trained DS2 early, it'll just take him longer to be fully reliable. Btw I put DS2 in pants at 2.6 at his own behest - he was desperate to wear pants and use the toilet, whereas DS1 couldn't have cared less and trained well over 3. DS2 would NOT be impressed if I took his beloved pants away at this stage!

Agincourt · 12/01/2012 11:06

he is only 2 1/2year old, it's quite normal for them to have accidents. They get so engrossed in play at this age that they just forget to go. Really, I wouldn't worry about it.

KnowYourself · 12/01/2012 11:14

From what you say I would also consider constipation.
If he is constipated, his poos might not be hard. You might even think he is doing something everyday if he is actually having 'poo accidents'. Except that they might not be accident but soiling.
My experience is that children find it easier to handle poos than wees because the feeling is stronger and they normally have a lit more time to react. If he did master wees but not poos then I would really double check.

Also, with my dc, when he was constipated, he was 'having accidents' ie soiling and it was very soft, nearly like constipation. Then when he was going to the toilet, his poos were HUGE and soft! Nothing like the rabbits poos or very hard poos that you think about re constipation. The thing that is telling was the size if them.
He was really going only every few days and had become very picky food wise ie he wasn't hungry because his bowels were full. You talk about constipation when a child is going less than 2~3 times a week.
Also there was a lot of wee accidents because with the constipation, it was putting a lot pressure on his bladder.
Have you being careful if he sometimes tries to 'stop it from coming' behaviour, hides behind the sofa?

lydiathetattooedlady · 12/01/2012 11:50

Ive sent him to nursery to day with a tupperware box of yoghurt cranberries (his favourite) he had a wee when he first got there and was rahter delighted to be presented with one so hopefully it will be an incentive for him! I also took above posters advice on getting him to change himself, so the staff have been told when he has an accident he's to sort himself out!

Re: constipation, it is possible that his holding til the last minute is making him have accidents as after yesterdays accidents he poohed last night and this morning. There is no straining, It literally shoots out (sorry for tmi!) I'll keep an eye on how often he's going. HIs eating habits though i have no issues with he isnt fussy or picky and often has seconds!

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lydiathetattooedlady · 12/01/2012 11:51

Oh forgot to say he doesnt have soiled accidents and he doesnt ever seem to stop himself having a poo by hiding rather than going to the toilet. He will just suddenly shout 'poo' and scurry to the toilet!

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lydiathetattooedlady · 12/01/2012 18:50

The cranberries worked! no accidents alllllllllllllllllllll day not even a dribble!

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Dalrymps · 12/01/2012 18:52

Brilliant news!!!!!Grin

HavePatience · 12/01/2012 19:13

KnowYourself - that sounds like my ds. Huge poos. Used to be hard and now soft. He definitely does not poo every day. (are they meant to?)
More like every few days. Sometimes once per week. Sad
I stopped movicol and other stuff because it got soft and thought this was better since he wasn't straining on the toilet anymore. But he does hold it in until he can't anymore. Sorry for the hijack. Blush

HavePatience · 12/01/2012 19:14

Well done, Lydia!Grin glad the treats worked!

lydiathetattooedlady · 12/01/2012 19:20

Thank you! I got there and looked at him then screeched 'there the trousers he had on this morning!'

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lydiathetattooedlady · 12/01/2012 19:21

oops 'they're' obviously not 'there'...

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smackapacca · 12/01/2012 19:34

That's great, but if not so good tomorrow, don't beat yourself up. It's 2 steps forward, 1 back at this age.

MoaningMinnieWhingesAgain · 12/01/2012 19:55

DS was very similar. He potty trained himself really over the summer holidays, was dry day and night. Until a couple of weeks ago he had been having about a month of lots of accidents, he just didn't bother going for a wee often enough and he poohed himself quite happily.

He has just turned 3.

All of a sudden, he is back to normal. I remember DD having a similar blip a few weeks after becoming dry.

bugsonbuns · 12/01/2012 19:59
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KnowYourself · 12/01/2012 20:43

HavePatience, there are a few criteria for constipation.

  • Having less than 3 bowel movements a week
  • Soiling
  • Stool hard to pass/painfull/with blood
  • Huge poos ('block the toilet)
  • Rabbit froppings
  • Retentive posture
  • Straining
  • Poor appetite
You don't need all of them, just some of them to talk about constipation. So in your case, if he has 'huge poos' and is going infrequently, I would go back to see the GP and have a chat. Ask for a referral to the paediatrician too.

Can you see I've been dealing with that for far too long....

HavePatience · 12/01/2012 20:54

Thanks. I've been dealing with it a while, too. Saw paed already. I will continue with the movicol. I had stopped because the straining while on the toilet had stopped and poos weren't hard anymore.

HavePatience · 12/01/2012 20:55

Oh Lydia I know that feeling - it's the first thing I notice - yeah! Same trousers! :)

Tgger · 12/01/2012 21:44

Hooray for the yoghurt thingie rewards!!! Fingers crossed for tomorrow. x

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