DS is 4.3, he's been at pre school for a year, but this Sept he started doing 5 mornings a week. Poor love is shattered now, my sister said YR is hard on kids, starting school every day. I guess at least my ds is hopefully getting a taster of what it'll be like next year, but blimey he's shattered. How does everyone else deal with this? He's not really the napping type any more... if he does fall asleep in the car for example he's not really tired at bedtime and will often be awake until well after 8pm, which means he's tired the next day. He's getting 12hrs sleep a night, does he need more? Not sure I'll be able to persuade him to go to bed much earlier than 7pm.