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Psammead · 29/11/2011 16:19

My friend has 3 DC.
DC1, boy, 5 and a half.
DC2, girl, 2 and a half.
DC3, girl, 2 months.

She is having problems with their behaviour and has been offloading to me. I want to help, but don't know how.

The older two children are both very bright, but lack social skills. The boy is very bad at losing, for example. It's become something his teachers are starting to notice. He is also very reliant on his mother for simple things like puttng butter on his toast etc. He dislikes being told what to do.

The next one, the girl, is very aggressive. I have lost count of the amount of times she has hit, scratched and pushed my 2yo. She has started doing this with adults now as well. She also screams for hours. Not sad screaming, but rage screaming. Yesterday, for example, she screamed from 7:30pm until 11pm. This morning on the phone I could hear her screaming again. She says no to everything. My friend lets her choose what to wear, for example, but she refuses to then put it on.

My friend is very laid-back and fun with the kids, but is beginning to think that she ought to be more firm. I agree.

What can she do to get some discipline into the house? I was thinking of suggesting a reward chart - maybe listing the five biggest problem areas of the two eldest children and rewarding them with a star on days when they behave in these areas. With something like a movie of their choice for getting above x amount of stars in a week.

Does anyone have any other suggestions? With the new baby, my friend sounds like she's going under. I have offered to do shopping, housework, cooking etc to take the load off, but it's the childrens' behaviour which is the real issue.

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Psammead · 29/11/2011 16:21

Just to add, the new baby has made the situation worse, but it was always quite bad.

The children can also be absolutely lovely, sweet and charming!

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Gapants · 29/11/2011 16:31

Is their a local children's centre to her? A sure start? they run parenting classes all the time, and sound just like what she needs, a good friend of mine went to them and it changed her family dynamic a lot!

I like reward charts and stars and that sort of thing, but I think you have to target one area at a time. So for the little girl it would maybe be a bedtime routine? I think more sleep would even out her temper? For the boy, maybe start rewarding and pushing for greater independence...toys put away, school clothes laid out/put past. Little tasks that get a tick, then a star at the end of the day? Get the school in on it too. To change behaviour you need to constantly and specifically praise and model the behaviour you want. narrate what you are doing, and narrate what they are doing when they do it well--

Thats right DS, empty out your book bag for me, and get your reading book for me, wow, well done, you got your book out really neatly, now I can hear you read to me, I know you will read it fantastically. Or.... Righ DS time to get changed, what you going to do with your school stuff? Thats right, lay them carefully on the chair for tomorrow, that is excellent, your trousers are laid out all smart for tomorrow you did that all by yourself.

Does she have a good sling to cart the new born around in?

People have a lot of pride, and she is probably refusing your lkind offer of practical help because of this. Take round a couple of dinners for her, something she can whack in the freezer for later.

Psammead · 29/11/2011 16:39

Thank you.

She does have a sling. No surestart because we're not in the UK.

But that's really helpful. I didn't really think of the concentrate on one problem at a time thing.

I will relay this to her.

I will also turn up with some food etc. that's a good idea.

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Cartoonjane · 29/11/2011 16:51

I would recommend choosing one thing to deal with first, the thing that causes the most problems. Use a reward chart ( someone I know has a jar and adds marbles, when it's full there's a prize) and/ or firm sanction depending what it is. If using sanctions they need to be something that the parent can carry out without too much diffuculty. I hate it when I hear parents say things like, "If you do X again we'll go home/ never come here again," etc. Things they clearly are not going to do. I think sanctions should be used sparingly ( but determinedly on what is being targeted ) and for young children need to be immediate. The naughty step worked for me because you can find one wherever you go.

Regarding being a poor loser: does your friend play games with her children? I would play games but make sure he plays them properly, don't enourage cheating or being silly. Model appropriate behaviour on winning and losing. She may well do these things anyway. Maybe some people are bad losers, I'm not sure........

Psammead · 29/11/2011 17:01

Thanks.

Yes, she plays games and does what you said. She is a great mum, she tries her best but hates to punish. She had an ultra strict upbringing herself. Too many people have commented on the behaviour now, though.

I will pass on your ideas.

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FrauHolle · 29/11/2011 17:53

your friend only needs to read one book. fantastic advice, for all ages.

[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Setting-Limits-Strong-Willed-Child-ebook/dp/B000S1LHIK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1322589133&sr=8-2]]

FrauHolle · 29/11/2011 17:58

again [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Setting-Limits-Strong-Willed-Child-ebook/dp/B000S1LHIK/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1322589133&sr=8-2]]

Psammead · 29/11/2011 18:18

Thanks!!

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FrauHolle · 03/12/2011 21:06

Meant to add more but was in a rush: the book cuts straight through all the psycho babble we parents sometimes use on our children. I am re-reading it currently to deal with my 3 year old's challenging behaviour.

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