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Help with DS's school problems

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hurricanewyn · 21/04/2011 21:49

I'm hoping for some advice please.

DS is eight, nearly nine and has had problems at school pretty much since the beginning but things have come to a head today.

He's had some behavioral problems since Reception. He's very, very easily distracted and this has been the cause of some problems with his teachers. He's reading is excellent, but he gets some extra support in Maths. His handwriting is appalling and he still can't do his tie or shoelaces. His teachers originally thought he might be dyspraxic, but then considered ADHD. I took him to the doctor who referred him on to the CAHMS team. He had one assessment there, where they ruled ADHD out.

He also chews. A lot. He chews his clothes, paper, blu tak. Pretty much anything he can get in his mouth. I give him gum, which helps, but obviously he's not allowed this in school, so he chews what he can while he's there. I've tried talking to him about this, but he says he doesn't realise what he's doing until someone points it out.

Generally when people point it out they're sniggering or joking about. This makes him lose his temper and he gets really wound up. The other kids find this funny and have started to wind him up now to get a reaction. We've talked about coping strategies with him, like counting to 10 or walking away, but this hasn't really helped.

Some of the stuff he gets annoyed about can be quite trivial, althought I suppose if I were 8 I wouldn't find it so. But, I think his mindset now means that he loses his rag as a first reaction now, rather than it being a last resort.

Today, when I went to pick him and DD up from school, i was asked to go to the head's office as there had been an incident. Apparently someone had noticed the colour of his underpants when he bent over and informed everyone DS was wearing blue pants and they all laughed. DS saw red and tried to strangle this other boy and had to be pulled off him. The head also told me that this Tuesday they had found a list on his desk which he had called his "revenge list" which had some people's names on it. One was a little girl who had smiled at him which DS thought meant she was laughing at him. Today was the first I had heard about it.

I'm really at a loss to know how to deal with this. He knows that he can never raise a hand to someone else, he knows he should've just walked away if he's upset but he says he just couldn't take it anymore. The school have said that they're going to monitor him closely to see if he's being picked on, but I'm at a loss as to what to do. It's gone beyond a telling off and a punishment, but I really don't know.

Has anyone any advice to offer?

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vintageteacups · 21/04/2011 21:57

Gosh Hurricane - you must be quite distressed - poor little man. He is obviously finding the other children's behaviour difficult to deal with.

Can you get him a private assessment?

I immediately thought dispraxia when you said about the shoe laces and handwriting but I'm no expert. I'm sure you've seen this website but here's the link if it's helpful:
here

I hope you manage to find some good support.
Have you considered home ed?

thisisyesterday · 21/04/2011 22:01

i would go to your gp and ask for a referral to your community paediatrician, they are the people who would assess/diagnose for things like ADHD, dyspraxia, ASD etc, not cahms- they deal with mental health issues

has an educational psychologist been involved at all?

what are school doing to help him through the day? if they know certain things are triggers for him then what are they doing to ensure those things are stopped/limited?
have they spoken to ALL the children in the class about teasing and bullying and how it will not be tolerated?

create · 21/04/2011 22:04

He's obviously a bright child as his reading is good, is he frustrated by his apparent lack of ability with writing and maths?

I was always told DS1 couldn't concentrate, right through infants and up the middle of yr 4 (now yr5)

He was (is) a very good reader, but also really struggled to write, do buttons, tie laces, use knife & fork etc. Eventually I got him refered to an occupational therapist (through GP) and we discivered he's hypermobile (what we used to call double jointed). This meant he had a reason for his difficulties and you could really see what a relief that was to him - previously he'd more or less been told he was lazy/not trying.

OT gave us exercises to do and helped a lot within his pencil grip and very quickly all areas of his school work (including concentration) improved vastly - he's gone up 3 levels in Literacy since Sept. It turned out he wasn't actually that bad at maths either, just that he found writing the answers difficult, so his attention wandered and he didn't produce much work.

Maybe your DS's behaviour is down to frustration?

create · 21/04/2011 22:07

PS, I should have said the hypermobility means he has difficulty controlling his fingers, leading to problems with fine motor skills, similar to Dyspraxia, but without the (often) associated speach issues. DS doesn't chew, but he does dribble constantly (slack mouth muscles)

CarGirl · 21/04/2011 22:11

For the distraction and chewing thing, this treatment can really help. I was very sceptical about it but my dd changed hugely!

I have linked direct to the initial questionnaire assessment but after that read around the site

www.inpp.org.uk/questions/index.php

as an aside a boy I know who did a whole revenge thing and had a temper issue was actually on the aspergers spectrum and did get stuck in cycle of always kicking off because in part it had become a habit. Obviously aspergers is a spectrum and it would have to be alot more indicators than that to place him anywhere on it.

hurricanewyn · 21/04/2011 22:55

Thank you all for your messages. You've given me a lot to think about.

I think the first step will be to take him to the GP's after Easter and then take it from there. I'm just not sure if we should be looking for a referral to an OT, psychiatrist, psychologist, paeds or social services.

Unfortunately, we are unable to home ed. DH works full time and I am a full time student. TBH I'm not sure I'd have the skills to home ed anyway.

Cargirl, unfortunately this isn't the first time I've suspected AS or aspergers, but like you say it's a massive spectrum......

I think I'll sleep on it tonight and have another talk with him tomorrow.

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CarGirl · 21/04/2011 22:59

Please have a look at that questionnaire, you don't need a diagnosis to seek treatment and it could really help.

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