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What the heck is going on??

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sophiebean2010 · 08/03/2011 19:05

Hi there

For the past couple of weeks my dd (just gone 9 months) has started some bedtime/nighttime weirdness. Up until now she has been a great nighttime sleeper (days are another matter). Nights WERE dinner about 5pm, bath at 6:30, bottle, then in bed by 7 and she would quite happily fall asleep. No longer. Even though she is yawning, rubbing her eyes and shouting to get in bed once there she sings, chats,etc. which then turns to grunting/whinging which then turns to crying/screaming. If I go in her little head bobbles up and she smiles and chatters to me as she bounces around on her hands and knees. This can go on for an hour or more. I KNOW she isn't hungry, her nappy is clean and she is tired but don't know what to do as attention gets her all happy and excited but leaving her makes her upset - neither of which are conducive to sleep Confused.

She used to sleep until around 7 AM - sometimes a bit earlier and very ocaisionally a bit later. Now she wakes up in the night - I hear her start to cry and then gets back to sleep for a bit, then the same again for ages. Pretty well every night she has also woken up crying and been unable to get back to sleep. I've tried giving her a bottle but she generally only has about 2 ozs. so she's not hungry, I've tried water but she has a good drink and then carries on screaming.

In the daytime she is all over the place but generally she has a nap about 9 AM for about 45 minutes and a nap in the afternoon of around 1.5 hours. Sometimes she has two 1.2-2 hour naps and sometimes nothing.

I have been letting her sleep later in the morning to try to make up for the fun and games the night before and during the night and suspect that it isn't helping but am not convinced that the extra half hour in the morning really makes a huge amount of difference either way.

What the hell is going on?? Any thoughts anyone 'cause it's driving me nuts... Knowing she's tired and listening to the nightly shouting and carrying on for (tonight anyway) an hour+ and knowing that me trying to comfort her will only prolong it. Is it maybe her bedtime (but she IS tired)? Or bedtime routine?

Reading this back it does sound quite trivial but to me it is quite difficult as I've really been struggling for her to get enough sleep due to her poor daytime naps and had found that the better she sleeps during the day the better her nighttimes are and the happier she is generally (which is my goal!!)

I appreciate any thoughts, comments, advice etc. as days & nights are horrible when she is tired/over tired AND she is so incredibly happy when not suffering from tiredness.

Thanks.

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JarethTheGoblinKing · 08/03/2011 19:06

Teeth.

sophiebean2010 · 08/03/2011 19:23

I hope so Jareth! I was really doubting it was teeth because she is okay during the day (when not tired).

Maybe there is enough to distract her so they aren't so bothersome? And they are definitely on the way.

Thanks.

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sophiebean2010 · 08/03/2011 19:26

And she usually wakes up in the morning quite happy...

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JarethTheGoblinKing · 08/03/2011 21:01

Sorry for being so brief before, I was on my phone.

DS was like this between 9-24 months (sorry Grin )
He was mostly fine during the day, bit more grizzly on occasion, but he's generally a very happy boy. Was obviously when he was asleep that it bothered him (he also had a dummy at night, and as sucking increases blood flow to the gums, I guess it didn't help with the pain).

Give a dose of neurofen (assuming no asthma) before bed, and just seen how you go, worth a try. :)

AngelDog · 08/03/2011 21:26

8/9 month sleep regression - totally normal and it'll pass eventually. It affects night & day sleep - IIRC my DS went from 45 mins + 2 hours naps to 30 + 30 mins naps during this phase which was no fun for anyone. (Daytime sleep has a huge effect on his nights too.)

I'd keep trying for naps - if she's waking later, you'll probably need to move the nap times later too. But of course if she still has a 'proper' second nap, bedtime will need to be later too. If she doesn't nap, or doesn't nap well, move bedtime earlier by 30-60 mins to help reduce overtiredness.

You can read more about it here, here and here.

sophiebean2010 · 09/03/2011 18:56

Thanks Jareth & Angel

I just thought that the bedtime carry on was really weird - especially when me going in resulted in smiles and excitement. It's so awful to listen to her so upset and feeling unable to help :( . And her fighting to get to sleep in the night is so hard too.

I've given her some ibufrofen and slathered her gums in Anbesol tonight... And straight to sleep like she used to so hopefully it is her teeth - well, I hate that she's in pain but at least I can feel a bit better knowing what it is. But YIKES!...24 months Grin!!

Angel, thanks for the links - they are really interesting.

Cheers!

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JarethTheGoblinKing · 09/03/2011 19:21

Grin you're welcome.

It wasn't constantly, every couple of months for about a week we'd have teething issues affecting sleep (after being mostly fine all day), luckily neurofen works a treat Grin

foxy123 · 10/03/2011 15:04

I heard something about when you lie down more blood rushes to your head making teething/toothache more painful... hence the problems at night. Also I know my DD started crawling/pulling herself up to standing around that age so a lot is going on in their little brains so a big developmental milestone

sophiebean2010 · 11/03/2011 18:41

I agree foxy... This did correspond with dd starting to crawl, the start of a massive increase in her 'vocabulary' and the long awaited arrival of her first tooth so there is indeed a lot going on.

I think (HOPE!) a combination of things with teething pain being a biggie - and if it is true that laying down makes it worse than it makes sense.

Thanks for your comments on what likely seems like a silly question/concern... Blush

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