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12 wk old - still waking twice per night - encouraging stories needed!

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BananaMuffin · 09/02/2011 09:42

My 12 wk old DS is still waking twice each night, usually around 1.30/ 2 and again around 5, having gone to sleep 'properly' at 10pm. Sometimes he seems to wake naturally, and other times his back is wet (we're having serious leaky nappy issues!!!!). When he wakes, I pretty much feed him back to sleep (takes about 10 minutes). Should I be getting a little harsher around now and refusing to do this, leaving him to cry/ see if he settles naturally? I'm aware of what books (e.g. Gina Ford) suggest in terms of routines to prevent this, but I wondered if anyone has any encouraging stories of their babies eventually sleeping for longer naturally??
I should add that he has slept for 6 hours in a row on three occasions, but I honestly couldn't tell you what I did differently on those days!
I suppose my real question is - did your baby eventually sleep through without any 'help' from you, or did you have to start getting stricter with regard to picking them up and feeding them in the night?

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blueberryboybaitonSafari · 09/02/2011 09:46

Perfectly normal for his age and for a while yet - neither of mine had set routines for sleeping through and slept through reasonable regularly from 7months although they did have episodes of needing feeding more often during the night when they had growth spurts.

hippytrippynamedropper · 09/02/2011 09:46

I don't think that is unusual at that age - he is still very young. DD was up more than that sometimes. She is now 23 weeks and just started waking only once. I haven't done anything differently. Maybe I should be. I'm sure someone helpful will be along soon to advise.

3timesalady · 09/02/2011 09:47

He's only 12 weeks! Relax a little - at that age when he needs Mummy, he needs Mummy & that's the end of it. I HATE those awful 'let them cry'/'get a routine from x weeks' books. Each baby is an individual & they need what they need. My DC all woke through to 6 months - no big deal. It may feel like forever, but it's not - relax & tend to baby when he needs you.

Oh & ignore other mums & their competitions about who sleeps longest/best. Life's too short & their babies are probably ugly anyway. :o

notnowbernard · 09/02/2011 09:48

I would givre my right arm for a baby that wakes only twice a night Envy

6m DS currently averaging about 5 times a night

Itchymisery · 09/02/2011 09:49

Gosh, my seven-month-old still wakes twice sometimes. He occasionally sleeps through but not because of anything different I do. He usually wakes just the once now, between three and four am and I'm finding that just about bearable.

At 12 weeks, I think only waking twice is pretty good really! I know there are always the odd people with babies that sleep through from early on, but they are in the minority. Personally I wouldn't even start to worry yet. I know it's hard though, so good luck.

Shamechanger · 09/02/2011 09:51

No no no small babies who wake in the night are almost always waking to be fed. You must feed them. There is no 'being strict' with small babies, it is starving them. If he is waking for feeds at sinilar times every night and going to sleep at similar times he is already in a routine. Frankly you are lucky he goes back to sleep once you've fed him, I had one that did and one that didn't.

Hippytrippy 23 weeks and one feed is very good, you might find that feed gets dropped when solids are fully established.

BananaMuffin · 09/02/2011 09:53

Oh this is so helpful - thank you. I am completely incapable of leaving him when he wakes so I'm really pleased that no one has told me to do that!! This is just what I needed to hear. Just wanted to be sure that it all sounded normal...

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FlingonTheValiant · 09/02/2011 09:54

17 week old DS woke seven times last night, between 11.30 and 7!

Indith · 09/02/2011 10:03

Glad you have been reassured :). All he needs is to know that his mummy is there to meet his needs.

Now if anyone has any tips for a 2 year old who can easily manage 10 times a night with excuses ranging from "I need a wee" (no you don't dear you did one 5 mins ago) to "Ds is hitting me" (no he isn't dear he is fast asleep)........

mintyneb · 09/02/2011 10:58

I think 12 weeks is still a bit too young to be worrying about sleeping right through teh night.

Another way of looking at it though is that if your DS is a bad sleeper as a young baby he may be brilliant when he is a toddler/young child.

My 3.10 yo DD slept all the way through from about 4.5 months but for the last 18 months has got up 2 - 4 times a night - virtually every night!! Now I told myself to start with it was just a phase and she would grow out of it but I'm beginning to wonder now if she ever will

Try and relax a bit more about your DS's sleep. Once you both get it cracked there will no doubt be 101 other things come up destined to drive you mad!!

Bumpsadaisie · 09/02/2011 11:41

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"I should add that he has slept for 6 hours in a row on three occasions, but I honestly couldn't tell you what I did differently on those days! "

This is the key thing - the fact is that often baby's sleeping depends very little on what you do or don't do. The sad fact is that we have little control over it. Either they sleep well, or they don't.

Of course you influence things (eg its silly to give babies loads of sugary stuff just before bedtime etc) and make sure that they are comfortable, not in pain, warm enough. But beyond that there is not much you can do.

You can agonise about it but I think better is to accept that we can't control it, and to decide that you will just respond to whatever comes up sleepwise. That is actually less stressful than thinking there is some magic thing you ought to be doing - there isn't!

Children do eventually sleep better, but unless you have an exceptional child or you decide to go in for rigorous sleep training (which may not work anyway), I am afraid you have got many moons of broken nights ahead of you, given yours is only 12 weeks old.

Mine is 20 months - sometimes she sleeps through 8 to 8, sometimes like last night she is up for hours!! [grr]!

But be reassured is that the general trajectory is to better sleeping and it being easier to put them to bed. My DD now has a bedtime and actually asks to go in her cot. I sing a few songs and then off I go, and she is out for a good 6 hours at least. On good nights she goes right through, on less good nights, she wakes up but settles back quickly, on bad nights she is up for an hour in the middle of the night, and on hideous nights like two nights ago she is up from 2.30am to 5.30am (though that was DHs fault for giving her supper at 8pm , naughty man(sugary baked beans too!)).

CilantroLarry · 09/02/2011 11:46

Two nightly wakings at 12 weeks is superb (sounds like your baby's found its own routine actually).

My 3yr old doesn't sleep through.

duchesse · 09/02/2011 11:49

Waking twice at 12 weeks is flipping brilliant! I just hope it lasts beyond 4 months (thinks bitterly and nostalgically back to the days when 17mo DD3 slept 10-7, back when she was tiny).

trixie123 · 09/02/2011 15:54

as others have said, twice a night, at roughly 4 hour intervals isn't bad for a 12 week old and you shouldn't worry. We were lucky that DS did go about 10pm - 6am a little earlier than that but it really was luck, nothing that we did particularly. I would sort out the leaky nappy issue ASAP. Is he in the wrong size? Some makes have a slightly different shape so try different brands as well. I don't think "harsh" is really the way to go with a baby this young. It probably feels like you have had him forever but he is still very tiny and can't really "learn" anything yet. If you are only up for ten mins at a time, and its fairly predictable, I would be happy with it for now! Smile

rosie1979 · 09/02/2011 16:03

My ds did not sleep through the night until he was 9 months. But I mean 7pm to 7am - some of my friends count "sleeping through" differently.
12 weeks and two wakes sounds pretty normal, I remember my ds waking at midnight, then 5 until he was about 3 /4 months then he just had one feed at about 3/4am then slept through.

sanam2010 · 09/02/2011 17:35

Agree with others but on top make sure u fix the leaking nappy issue! Of course that will wake him up!! Are u sure u have the right size? It shouldn't happen unless they are too small/big or somehow not closed properly in the bag. At least that would remove one reason to wake up.

Also try to get him to sleep by 7pm. Chances are, if he now sleeps from 10-1, he will then wake at 10, but after a week or so sleep from 7-1, or u can always dreamfeed him when u go to bed.

By the way, if u only need 10min to nurse him back to sleep, you are almost there, i am sure it took him longer to settle down as a newborn! Bc it shows his body already knows it is sleeptime and as soon as his tummy is big enough (and his clothes are dry!!!!), he will sleep through.

DD is 17 weeks by the way and usually sleeps from 7pm to 7am interrupted by 1-3 feeds, except for this week as she has a virus and wakes up every 2h, grrrr :-). But i nurse her whenever she needs and never let her "cry it out" and yet she usually has a 6-9hour stretch uninterrupted followed by another 2-3h stretches.

Just be patient with your baby and enjoy hugging and holding ur baby in the dark, soon baby will grow up and u will miss those special moments!

MrsGruffalo · 09/02/2011 19:14

I have a 13 week old who is currently down at 7-730, up at 1 and then up at 4 again - seems pretty normal to me. He also only takes 10 mins :)

littlebylittle · 09/02/2011 20:19

Ds might make you feel better. Woke 2-3 times per might for feeds when little , then went through phase of being actually awake for 1-2hours per night. Started sleeping well at 15 months, now 2.3 and has 2-3 hour nap, asleep by eight awake about seven. I am enjoying this phase! Dd, 5.4 would be in bed with us every night if we could sleep like it and almost always wakes up at some point. Slept beautifully as baby. This too will pass op

Sarahlou8 · 09/02/2011 21:37

My DD (15 weeks now) was sleeping 9.30pm - 3am quite early on, and gradually stretched the 3am feed to 4am, 5am, 6am and now 7am.

A couple of weeks ago she started to wake up again at 12.30am, 2.30am and 5.30am and I wondered what on earth I was doing wrong, but I just fed her and went with it, and the last couple of nights she's gone through again.

We haven't changed anything at all or done anything different. I really enjoy our cosy, sleepy cuddle and feed, I have a low night light and a drink waiting. It can be a special time.

When she began waking again I did worry it was the start of a sleep problem, but she settled without any help from me, so at 12 weeks, I'd just go with the feeds for now, he's still very young. x

milkyway2007 · 09/02/2011 21:41

My daughter didnt sleep through the night until she was about 5-6 months - when I started weaning her properly.

12 weeks is way too young! Relax a little - and actually twice a night is excellent. There are some women out there who's kids wake up every 2 seconds!

Babies usually start sleeping through the night when their tummy is full, and they are relaxed. For me, I found I would give DD some baby rice at around 7-8pm and then breast feed her when she was about 6 months, and she would sleep through the night.

Hope youre enjoying your little one!

llareggub · 09/02/2011 21:43

Hurumph.

My DS2 is 21 months and still waking twice a night.

plasticspoon · 09/02/2011 22:10

Sorry, this is not very supportive but when i saw your thread title I thought "What, only twice?!"

tryingtoleave · 10/02/2011 07:09

My 4.5 year old has just stopped waking in the night. We bribed him with the promise of a bunk bed Smile. Now to deal with the 2 year old.

Just so that this post isn't completely useless, I should add that he was sleeping through at 12 weeks and I was horribly smug and thought I was the best mother in the world. The 4 month sleep regression and the next 4 years was my punishment. I have noticed that babies who followed a different pattern (not sleeping through so early) slept better in the long run. So, I wouldn't worry, if I was you.

cluelessnchaos · 10/02/2011 07:20

My 12 week old is doing exactly the same, falls asleep at then up for a quick feed at one and half four, I thought he was doing pretty well and a couple of weeks ago he was much worse.

ScroobiousPip · 10/02/2011 07:35

Twice per night sounds great. Very normal (possibly better than 'normal', whatever that is).

In answer to your qn, yes, after teething finished, around 18mo. Others I know slept through naturally much earlier, some later (despite 'training').

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