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Where have I gone wrong with my 8 yr old DD?

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MissRead · 08/02/2011 19:40

Apologies in advance for the length of this.

Recently my DD has become stroppy, negative and lazy and to use a cliche I feel like I'm living with a teenager :( Everything is a battle - homework or anything I ask her to do seem to be completed with the minimum of effort but doing her hair or choosing an outfit to walk round the corner in get her full attention. She answers back, sulks, will never agree to anything if it's my suggestion and generally behaves in away that I would never have dreamed at her age - in fact I wouldn't dare (or want) to speak to my Mum that way now.

I have always been fairly strict and she's been a fairly easy kid up till now - no angel by any means but 'good' to the point that people have often commented on her manners or behaviour. Now I am at my wits end as to how to deal with her - I am so tired of shouting and having the same arguments over and over again, of making deals and threatening (and carrying out) punishments but never getting anywhere.

I feel that it must be my fault as I know she's a good kid underneath - someone suggested it could be hormonal but it doesn't seem to follow any pattern and I can't see any other signs. But I do try to remember how crap I feel at certain times of the month and give her the benefit of the doubt, it just doesn't make any difference. She seems to almost despise me if I try to be kind or understanding - I don't like being put on the spot either - but how the hell else can I help her?

DH is not much help, he's very black and white so she's either good and they're getting on well or bad and he's cross with her - he would never look to himself to see why she might be doing something in the way that I do and he'd be unlikely to come up with any ideas of how to deal with her.

I do wonder whether her school situation is not helping - the kids here change schools at the end of Y4 and I feel they get some quite mixed messages at this age - on the one hand they have to be quite grown up but in other ways they are still very much kids. DD will be messing about with make-up and talking about boys and pop music one minute, the next she's playing with baby dolls and her imaginary friends - typing that actually makes me think is it any wonder if she's feeling confused?!

I really need to decide on the best way to handle this as we can't go on like it for much longer, we had a very shouty row earlier after she: pestered to wear an inappropriate (and not allowed) costume for her swimming lesson and sulked when I said no, insisted she didn't need a coat to go out in, sneered at the snack I said she could have and looked at me like I was a piece of dirt when I dared to correct her. It ended up with us hardly speaking for the rest of the afternoon and then her in floods of tears when I tried to talk to her later. I can see that this is a ridiculous way for a mother and young daughter to behave towards each other but I just don't know how to change things :(

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pickledsiblings · 08/02/2011 20:06

I recognise a lot of what you are experiencing.

It is probably time to give her a bit more independence so that she doen't feel that she has to fight you for it. This could be something simple like letting her and a friend have the run of the kitchen to make their own snack after school or letting her go to bed a bit later. With the swim suit thing, I might have let her take the inappropriate one and suffer the consequences.

Try and walk away from arguments as often this gives them the chance to realise for themselves that they are being unreasonable.

I find that I can often give in, but still get my own way. If she is as good a girl as you think she is she will make the right call if you leave thing up to her a little bit more. Easier said than done , I know.

Good luck with it all, you're doing fine Smile.

muddyangels123 · 08/02/2011 20:31

Yep, i can relate to your post.
My DD has just turned 9 and in the past few months she has been alot more with the attitude.
Like your DD she has also started playing with her dolls/teddies more, things she hasn't played with for at least a year.
Other times she's quite grown up and like a teenager going on 30.Wink
I have put it down to hormones and changes coming up with her body. I was 10.5 years old when i started af, so she maybe early too.
My DD will no longer wear boden as she says it's babyish. I let her pick her own clothes now ( within reason ).
It's all about becoming independant.
She has bounderies and knows not to push too far. I ban her if needed.
At least she still comes to me with her worries etc..
I tell her we are a team and everything can be worked out one way or the other. Open communication.
Sometimes you just have to step back and let them get on with it.
My DD decided to go out and play in the snow without a coat, i just left it, i knew she would come in when cold, 10 mins. later she was back in for her coat.
My older boys were so much easier and she's only 9.Shock

polarfox · 08/02/2011 22:51

That age is hard and hormonal changes do play a big part!! At the same time they also seem to get more of an attitude based on things they view on tv- hanna Montana , rather than more childreny stuff. They copy kids at school with older siblings ie teenagers so basically they are suddenly exposed to very different environments!

The only thing to do is be consistent- you obviously did a fab job till now so keep on the same parenting style!!

My dd is 10 and drives me nuts at the mo, the boys are so much easier!!!
Sometimes I find it hard to praise her as she has managed to drive me round the bend all day.. So I do know what you mean.. I just make sure I give her everynight before bed a good chat about how lucky I am to have her etc and so we wipe the slate clean every night without fail xxx

boolifooli · 10/02/2011 13:09

Hello missread. Your description of daily life sounds very similar to ours. Dd 7, has always been a bit firey, never super obedient but nothing I was concerned about. She's getting worse. She avoids responsibility at every turn. I have to organise her in the morning and we still end up leaving school all frazzled and snappy. I feel so shit when I see other dds kissing their mums goodbye, Dd would rather slam her hand in the school door than kiss me. Afternoons are a little easier but we still have battles. Parents evening is next week and am going to bring it up as I can see Dd is putting same paltry effort in there not that its anything to do with school, I go in to help out so can see how well its run and how good the quality of teaching is. Sorry don't have any magic solutions. Just wanted to let you know that we going through same drama. Good luck!

Ineedacleaneriamalazyslattern · 10/02/2011 13:13

If you have done something wrong then so have I, dd is 8 this year and I can see a lot of her behaviour in what you said.
I am trying to put it down to that awkward age between little girl playing with baby dolls with ribbons in her hair...and the next stage, where nothing is fair and I'm wrecking her life Grin

MissRead · 13/02/2011 11:25

Thanks all for the advice, I am trying very hard to let her have a bit more independence and to not nag her all the time but it's very difficult - sort of pleased and not pleased to know others are going through the same! I do feel sorry for her, it is a tough age but it feels pretty tough from my side as well at the moment :(

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AnaS · 13/02/2011 16:47

I just read your post to my husband and he thought I had written it about our 9 year old dd. We are trying to let her have more independence(where appropriate)but she quickly forgets what we have done and will easily have a strop about anything!! Unfortunately have no other ideas to suggest - think we are just going to have to 'ride it out' and hope we all come out sane at the other end!!!

peeriebear · 13/02/2011 17:00

Same here with 9yo DD... One minute she's playing with her dolls and "Mummy I drew you a picture!" then the next minute she is a rude, intractable, screeching Tasmanian devil of a creature. I am currently trying to get her to see that if she tidies her bedroom floor I will paint her bookshelves, buy her a little stereo and reorganise her whole room so it looks great (we have fairy lights and a bed canopy to go up!). Tidying her floor is too much of an effort though, she'd rather sit on her bum and not get the good things Hmm I'm trying to be reasonable, the only punishment being she won't get a nice bedroom, but she honestly doesn't give a flying one. And it's my fault and I NEVER LISTEN if she can't find things/things are broken on her messy floor.

millarandmillar · 13/02/2011 20:22

This is my daughter too. I am trying to think of ways to help her be more thoughtful after nearly wrecking my 40th birthday yesterday with another of her stroppy, angry attitude days. She is 8! Any ideas? We have just about got to the end (tomorrow) of a two week ban from seeing her pony. She doesn't seem to care about much else. Am finding it tough to know where to go from here as I don't want her to go into her adulthood thinking she can throw her weight around to get what she wants regardless of anyone else. All ideas would be much appreciated.

blimp72 · 13/02/2011 20:46

OMG my DD is 8 soon i also can see some of you are all saying with her, what's it gonna b like when they're 15 AAARRRGGHHH

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