DD1 can't sleep (6 years old)

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DD1 has always been a night owl but increasingly can't sleep at night. She goes to bed around 7.30 with a good routine (bath, drink, teeth, story) and can read by herself until 8 or 8.15pm. However it's often 10pm before she's asleep. She potters around, sings, chats to teddies etc but just cannot sleep. She finds it difficult to get up in the morning (6.40am) and goes to school, followed most days by swimming. At the weekends she does gymnastics and we are often out walking, cycling, swimming etc so is tired. She's fine physically, normal in development terms and at the top end of her class. She's not worried about anything, except sometimes that she won't be able to sleep.

Should I just accept that I have a night owl or can anyone help?

Hi if you are worried about it you can talk to the doctor I never had that we my children have you tryed changing the rountine that might help when my son was having bad dreams I changed his rountine and that stop the bad dreams try it it might help let me know how you get on hope you get it sorted

Hi, I have a similar situation - ds is 5 and has for a while not slept til around 10pm. We had an evening last week that was nearly 11pm. He wakes at 7am and doesn't seem tired. He does lots of outdoor activities and just doesn't seem to need the sleep. I'm wondering if he isn't mentally tired - as he has an active brain, always thinking of what he wants to do, like fly to space. We are currently trying audio storybooks as a way to slow him down - some success as he does listen to the story rather than making plans to build a rocket.
Will be interested in anyone else who has gone through this.

DS1 (7yrs) was having similar problems a few months ago and was very tired the next day which resulted in stroppyness, poor concentration in class etc. He had a quite bright night light in his room and I moved it out onto the landing (he has the door open) and it has helped. I think it was bright enough to see around his room so he was looking a things rather than sleeping. So it may be worth looking at light levels in your DDs room.

Thanks everyone. Not sure if it's worth a trip to the doc's happymandy but a good idea to mention it if it's still a problem next time we're in.

Houseproject, audiobooks are a good idea. DD1 has a very enquiring mind too and I wonder if this is keeping her awake. She tends to overthink and mull things over too.... Maybe audiobooks would take her mind off things and help her brain relax if that makes sense.

Hedgepig, we leave the hallway light on but DD1's door is only open an inch or two. I did put her starlight on last night (projects stars on to the ceiling) and it seemed to help a bit so I don't think light is a problem.

She's back from school in half an hour (we live in Asia) and we're off to soft play (treat for finishing a star chart) so hoping she'll be shattered by bedtime tonight!