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Okay, I need tips and strategies to turn this family around please.

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TitsalinaBumSquash · 04/02/2011 16:55

I am here on my knees asking for help with my children's behaviour.
I need to turn this behaviour around becuase I can't cope like this long term.
If I outline the problems, could you suggest tips or your advice, I don't know what to ignore and what not to.

DS1 (6yr old boy)

DS1 has a long term medical condition, it requires a lot of very carefully managed medication/nebulisers and physio.
I also have to spend quite a bit of time in hospital with him.
He attends mainstream school and although it is improving he is quite immature compared to a 'normal' (I hate that word) 6yr old boy.

The problem with him is sheer sillnyess, babyish talk, inappropritae touching (rubbing his face/body all over me/teachers)

Also it is the fact he will go out of his way to wind up his brother and me with silly things, an example if him saying to DS2 'Were eating chicken' when there is quite clearly Pizza on the plate... or 'Your not 4' when DS2 is. Just things like that becuase he knows DS2 will snap.

We also have a problem with him repeating silly noises/faces all the time, still mouthing everything and his inability to keep his attention on anything or to make eye contact, his fine motor skills are also below average. We are waiting for a broard scale assesment for Autism/aspergers and adhd.

DS2 (4yr old boy) is a challenge, he either mumbles to the point that no one can hear him, or shouts really agressivley. We get lots of 'you idiot' when he cant get his own way.
He is fixated by computers and if one isn't availiable he is a nightmre, hanging on my leg, clinging to me ect... he might be pursuaded to colour in pictures for half an hour but generally has no imagination, his nursery teachers say this is a problem.
He cannot cope with being told no and it results in a full scale melt down, hitting, biting and screaming.
He will NOT walk holing hands or on reins and I fear he will be the only child starting reception in September still in a pushchair.

The boys cannot play together, as I say unless there is a computer involved they wander around bored and fight constantly, I cannot turn my head without them being all over each other, wrsetling eachother to the cround... eventually one of them will get hurt and start a proper fist fight.

I KNOW this is all my fault before I get a load of replys saying it, I also know its up to me to turn it around.
I am yet to find a punishment that they care about. We are in a tiny flat with no outside space, there is nowhere to have a 'naughty step' they share a bedroom and putting them there for time out results in it being totally decimated, the walls are a wreck already from them.
They don't respond to star charts unless the reward is something big like an expensive day out or toys.
They have to many toys and have been spoilt, they never play with any of them.
They have sweets and treats far to often.

I find myself just yelling all the time, I have in the past smacked their bottoms out of sheer frustration at not knowing how to combat this behaviour.

They have had unfortunatley through no ones fault had an unsettled upbringing, lots of house moves and thier Nan (my mum) died last year who they were very close to, their Dad moved out 3 weeks ago after a lifetime of arguments.
Help me please.

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TitsalinaBumSquash · 04/02/2011 19:19

Thanks. DS2 is in bed now and DS1 is chilling on the sofa.

DS2 has one of those backpacks with the strap on it for me to hold, like reins but more fun. He will ocassionaly tolerate it until he decides he wants to run off, or investigate something.
The problem is, he has no issue with being in a pushchair so its not a case of, 'either walk nicely or I will put you in the pushchair'
His walking is managable when he is by himself so isn't a huge issue right now, its the violence and the melt down he goes into so easily.

DS1 loves football, he is actually very skilled for someone his age so his teacher tells me. There isn't a group around here that he could join and when he has iv's he has a tube in his chest so would miss out quite a bit anyway for fear of pulling it out!

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justaboutfrayingattheseams · 06/02/2011 15:19

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pagwatch · 06/02/2011 15:26

Titsalina

Ds2 gets very very upset. I have tried to find ways to help him cope with his anger and frustration rather than just through meltdowns.

I have found that letting him know that I get it, I understand and sympathize with how frustrated he is, helps. So I will say
' you are really angry, very cross because of xxxx. That must feel bad. I understand. Would you like to xxxx to help yup feel better'
We have found calming strategies for him. He likes going to his room and getting under the duvet. He also likes shoutingGrin

I know it doesn't sound like much but, because I had been trying to prevent the meltdown so hard I was not letting him vent. And we all need to vent.

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TryingVeryHard · 07/02/2011 12:36

I really don't think you should blame yourself, this thread just shows you're doing your best to tackle the issues with lots of determination and courage.
There is a lot of help available for children with Autism/Aspergis, I know from one of our cousins, she has 2 boys and the older boy has Aspergis. She has found some techniques that worked well for her older boy and once his behaviour has improved, the younger boy's temperament has changed significantly and he's now proud to be supporting his mum and his older brother - really lovely.
It also helped lots when the disrputive ex got out of the picture - another common theme...
I'm not saying your older DS has Aspergis, obviously I'm in no place to diagnose.
I just thought that some of the techinques my cousin uses may actually work with children with behaviour issues, even if they haven't got a diagnostic of a sort.

Good luck whatever you do!

twolittlemonkeys · 07/02/2011 12:56

I don't have much advice except wrt your DS2 - my DS1 (4.10) hates us holding his hands and will refuse to walk, drop to the floor etc - I think it's a sensory thing related to probable Aspergers Syndrome - he is being seen by paediatrician, speech therapist, ed psych etc with a view to diagnosing him. What works with him is saying 'you hold my hand then' - I don't grip his but hold my hand completely flat and he just has to walk along touching my hand but not having his hand gripped in any way, which he seems to be able to tolerate much better. If he's in a complete strop then I have to grip his hand but 9 times out of 10 he would rather walk alongside lightly touching my hand. Also pagwatch's suggestions for avoiding a meltdown sometimes work for us.

It sounds like you have your work cut out for you, but are doing a great job.

TitsalinaBumSquash · 07/02/2011 18:38

Thanks for everyones posts. [smnile]

I'm still plodding on, I have got DS2 a rucksack with a strap on the back so he can choose a 'letter of the day' thing to put in it to take to school, then he has the choice of either holding my hand or I hold the strap, it's working ok for the moment.

DS1 is still a problem, he is doing a lot better at school but still a pest at home. It is finding something he cares enough about to remove as a punishment and trying to work out what behaviour to tackle first.

We went to the cinema yesterday as a treat for them behaving in the car for a 3hr journey, it was really nice, they enjoyed the film and sat nicely.

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pagwatch · 08/02/2011 20:17

A bit late to do so, but thanks for updating titsalina..

Glad you had a better day.

Do shout again though if you need anything. That wound up like a twisted bed spring feeling is horrible.
Even if we can't help we can at least sympathize/empathise

It usually gets better
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