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Advice needed: DD has put "penknife" on Santa's list

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doesthismatter · 25/11/2010 09:55

She is 9 and very sceptical about Santa but still seems to want to believe. She told me she had put a secret on her list to see if Santa brought it (and so to test if he was real).
I said he would not bring anything that I didnt know about. So she told me she wanted a penknife....
Apparently she had seen one recently at a friend's party. I had no idea about this but friend is generally quite sensible.

The thing is DD was very serious about wanting it and promising not to be dangerous and to stick to "any rules" I make and never to take it to school etc. But of course these days for a child to have a knife of any sort is not so acceptable is it? I am undecided what to do as I dont even really know how dangerous a penknife is to be honest as I have never held one I dont think? Where do you get them from?

I would really appreciate advice from people who may have them for their DC. Or any negative experiences. Would it be okay to let her have one on condition that she cant take it out of the house/garden?

Also advice as to if I do say no to having one (am not yet decided but suspect DH will say NO) then how can I explain it to DD so she understands that I do trust her, but....

Sorry to ramble on - just looking for a few more points of view before I let her know. I am tending to saying no, but I know how disappointed she will be. She loves using scissors, digging in the garden and making a mess outdoors generally so I can see how the knife appeals to her. She got hold of our garden shears this summer and before I knew it she had "helped" by cutting the roots of a beautiful flowering vine that had grown for many many years....

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suzikettles · 25/11/2010 10:40

This one's just taking the piss though

Littlepurpleprincess · 25/11/2010 10:44

wow that's impresive Suzikettles!

mousymouse · 25/11/2010 10:44

have a look at the reviews :o

MmeLindt · 25/11/2010 10:47

Suzi
I thought about ordering this one

ISNT · 25/11/2010 10:48

Grin brilliant

suzikettles · 25/11/2010 10:48

lolol Mme have a look at the Amazon reviews on mousy's link Grin

MmeLindt · 25/11/2010 10:49

LOL at the Amazon reviews.

EnnisDelMar · 25/11/2010 10:50

It's a penknife. It's not a flick knife or a knuckle duster.

Penknives are excellent.

It was TOP of my list as a 7/8/9yo and had to be a Swiss Army Knife with all the gear - scissors, saw, you name it.

It was a cheap copy of course but came from a real gun shop and I adored it - I still have it, and in fact was given a really small, single blade penknife from one of those tourist gift shops when I was about 5.

Hurting anyone with it didn't even cross my mind. It was just an exciting little gadget.

Please don't make a big deal of it. Just ask her what sort she would like/had seen.

If it turns out it was a whacking great 16" blade then obv you don't replicate. and have a word with her friend's parents!

You would want to supervise obv if she is liable to damage the plants. It depends on the kind of kid she is tbh.

exexpat · 25/11/2010 10:50

Mousymouse - love that one!

"The integrated particle accelerator will only work when the seafood cracker is aligned to an angle of 27.45°" Grin

Ormirian · 25/11/2010 10:50

Get her one! Excellent toy. Both Db and i had one. Good for whittling and other Boy's Own type stuff Grin

InkyStamp · 25/11/2010 11:01

I just love how the one linked to by mouse is about 50 foot long. Not really a 'pocket' knife!! Howver, the integrity is maintained with the red sides and the cute little cork screw. Can you imagine..'Glass of wine?' Grin

bb99 · 25/11/2010 11:04

DD wanted one from the age of 5 Shock

She got one when she was 10 as I knew she'd be able to open it then and hopefully not chop off her fingers, but did occasionally (and with supervision) use some of my garden knives etc for 'projects'

Great fun - I had a swiss army knife thingy, do be prepared for unlicensed whittling around the house though!

ReformedCharacter · 25/11/2010 11:08

I was talking to DP about this last week. He had a penknife when he was DS's age (8) and loved it. It was great for scraping bark off trees and sharpening pencils and all sorts of things. I asked DS if he would like one and he said "yes, for protection" Shock.

So, obviously we won't be buying that then.

MmeLindt · 25/11/2010 11:13

I love the tool finder but am slightly concerned that the first thing I looked for was the corkscrew.

droves · 25/11/2010 11:29

Hmm . i thought i was illegal to cary knives ...???

droves · 25/11/2010 11:30

carry , not cary Blush

belgo · 25/11/2010 11:32

I always carry on penknife on my keys, the scissors part is so useful.

I think it's a great way of teaching her to be responsible with something she owns.

I would get her one like this.

doesthismatter · 25/11/2010 11:32

Wow - thank you everyone for your replies. I am more positive about the idea now as it doesnt seem so dangerous if it is an "official" Scout one with a rounded end on it.

Will have to talk to DH though.

She does love tools generally - I have found the wardrobe door hanging off its hinges in her room where somehow the screws have mysteriously undone themselves. And she seems to delight in changing the batteries on things that need to be taken apart.
Am now more worried about the potential for all these other tools than the knife part of it...hmmm.

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belgo · 25/11/2010 11:35

I've just been checking out the links, some of them are great.

ISNT · 25/11/2010 11:37

She sounds just like me as a-girl-- fine to me Grin

I was always taking things apart and putting them back together, finding out how they worked. At school I enjoyed sciences and in the end took a Physics degree. All good Smile

ApocalypseCheese · 25/11/2010 11:38

We all had swiss army knves as kids, still have mine atch, feel bloody sorry for kids these days Sad

bamboobutton · 25/11/2010 11:42

whoops!

perhaps i should have been a bit more clear about what i meant. i meant file the blade right down so it is just a piece of metal, like the nail file, not just take the sharp edge off.

i personally am not concerned about kids playing with army knives, i got the impression the op was.

PandaG · 25/11/2010 11:42

DS got one at nearly 9, as a present for being an usher at DSIL's wedding. BIL checked with us first if it was ok.

It has been a huge hit - the knife lives in a drawer in our bedroom, and DS is only allowed to get it out if he asks us. He sits outside and whittles twigs, makes holes through conkers, and generally feels really grown up. Now he is a scout rather than a cub he will probably take it on camp too.

Might suggest one for DD for CHristmas, she'd love one too!

doesthismatter · 25/11/2010 11:42

ISNT - the trouble is that DD is great on the Taking Things Apart aspect. She is not so good on the Putting Them Back Together.

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seeker · 25/11/2010 11:43

"
perhaps i should have been a bit more clear about what i meant. i meant file the blade right down so it is just a piece of metal, like the nail file, not just take the sharp edge off."

Why would anyone want it after you'd done that to it?