How to deal with tidying up!!!!

[TitsalinaBumSquash]

OMG i am going to loose the plot soon. Advice needed please.

DS2 is 4 and he WILL NOT tidy up.
for instance he has a tap a shape game that heas tipped all over the floor about 15 mins ago, we need to go and get DS1 in about 10 mins, he has been asked nicely to pick his game up.
He is crying on the floor, whinging becuase he 'can't do it' 'its taking to long' 'he needs a hug' 'there is to much'

This takes place all day every day, i am not tidying his toys up for him so how on earth do i get him to do it?

I have tried 'games' for tidying but it doesn't work im sick of being the dogs body who does the tidying...

Ignore him till he does it, do nothing go nowhere until he picks the bloody things up, even if it takes all day, battle of wills, does he tidy up at pre-school? if so what do they do?, ours has a v annoying tidy up song which does the trick in our house, most of the time, and DS2 who is 3 had older brother 8 who is good at tidying up!

Oh I feel your pain.

I agree - ignore him. If you have to go out, go out leaving it all over the floor. Get back and tell him to tidy it up. Ignore all whinging and wails and pleas. Answer questions with 'Yes dear, of course, as soon as you've finished tidying away the game you got out and played with that you own.' Nothing else good happens till it's tidy. No tv, no playing with brother, no other toys out.

If he still won't, offer to take it all to the charity shop for him. But only if you mean it, no empty threats.

He's still very young. Mine got the concept at aged 7.

Also, if it was his Dad expecting you to do it, or a much older child then I think your feelings of being a 'dogs body' would be justified, but your 4 year old isn't treating you that way, he's just being 4.