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Frequent night time waking by a previously good sleeper (toddler) - advice please

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Utka · 24/07/2003 15:11

Our dd (aged 2.5, used to be a fantastic sleeper, going 7am-7pm. For the last 3-4 months however, she's been waking more and more during the night, and it's driving my dh and I mad!

She's pretty good at going back to sleep, once we've been in and sorted out whatever 'issue' she's got, but the regular wakings (up to 4 times a night) are making us all tired and cranky, and what started out as the odd night has somehow turned into a habit! I am pregnant with no 2 and my dh is out on the road a lot driving with his job, so we can't face this continuing.

There is no set pattern, although the waking up seems to start after about 11pm (she's fine during the evening). Generally there are a couple of hours between each waking.

She still has a daytime sleep (of up to 2 hours). We had wondered if this was affecting her night time sleep, but having tried reducing it to a sleep every other day, it doesn't seem to make much difference. If anything, she sleeps worse the night following a day when she's not had a nap, as she's so overtired she finds it hard to switch off. I know that she's likely to start dropping the daytime sleep sometime soon, but she finds it very hard to make it through the afternoon without one.

An added complication is that she has a kidney condition that makes her prone to urinary infections. As a result, we have to get her to drink lots. She's very good about this, but it does mean frequent nappy changes. She's now potty trained (hurray!), but of course is still wearing one at night. One of the problems though is that recently, her nappy is becoming sopping wet by about half way through the night. Not surprisingly she's waking and demanding that we change it. We have no problem with this, if it's necessary, but sometimes it isn't. Of course, you have to go in and check though!! What's odd is that this has only started happening recently, although I would say she's drinking the same as she always has. We have tried altering the timing of drinks so that she has the bulk of the liquid before 5pm, but this doesn't seem to make much difference. We wondered whether it has anything to do with her now being potty trained during the day, and therefore being more aware of weeing during the night.

She also has bad eczema, requiring liberal use of various emollient creams. One trick she's picked up is to demand that we reapply the cream several times a night. Knowing how uncomfortable the eczema makes her, we feel we can hardly refuse, but it's interesting that she hates us putting on the cream during the day, when it doesn't seem to sooth her in quite the same way!!

If she didn't have either of these things to contend with, I suspect we would have got really tough by now, and just settled her once, and then left her to shout a bit, but we feel a bit caught between a rock and a hard place!

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how we improve (if not solve) this problem?

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dejags · 25/07/2003 12:03

Hi Utka

I can definitely relate to this one - are you sure your DD isn't my DS. My DS was a brilliant sleeper - he could sleep through a hurricane and always 12 hours a night from being a tiny baby.

We have noticed that this problem has got quite a bit worse since DS was potty trained. He still wears nappies at night and I think if he is wet it is more pronounced because he is used to being dry during the day. On the other hand I think it is just a phase - one night we'll have "mummy please change my nappy", the next it will be "please put cream on" (DS a bit obsessed with bum cream vs eczema). Like you we have also tried experimenting with daytime sleeps which seems to have little or no effect.

We have just come to the conclusion that it's a phase. I am dealing with it by not interacting with DS at all in the night beyond saying it's night time and to go back to sleep. If he is being particularly rowdy I verbally tell him off for disturbing me and his dad, close his door and do my best to ignore him.

Very frustrating I know - if you come up with any bright ideas please pass them on.

runragged · 26/07/2003 19:22

Hi Utka

Firstly my dd went though a terrible sleep time when she was two, I was tearing my hair out, in the end had to just leave her to get on with it and cracked her that way. So I think it is quite common for the little sods to become really demanding once they can speak and realise they can control you.

But I think you have a point about the potty training thing. As soon as ds was trained in the he started waking up about 5.30 and wanting to get up, the only way to get him to stay in his room until 7 was to take his nappy off and then he would either go back to sleep or play until the more acceptable time of 7.
However when the weather was really hot dh (who is a total marshmallow) decided that it must be uncomfotable for ds to sleep in a wet nappy as the "poor little mite" might sweat too much so put him to bed with no nappy on just a potty in his room. That was two weeks ago and he is dry, he still wakes at 5.30 but he uses the potty and then plays. He sleeps on a mattress on the floor with a stairgate so he has access to his things.

(As an aside though, he isn't daft and the last two mornings he has screamed until we took him to the toilet(!) then trotted happily back into his room. I think he works on the premise that if he's up we should all be up!)

Utka · 28/07/2003 13:02

Thanks for the responses so far. There definitely seems to be some link with the potty training - what's so irritating is that you don't want to undo all the good daytime work by getting stressed with them about it during the night.

Her eczema is getting much better so I think that once we can be sure she won't scratch herself to death we'll start leaving her to shout a bit more. Only problem is that we took the cot down for good at the weekend, so we don't have the ultimate sanction now if she gets up too much in the night!

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